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[The Sheriff]

They're doing it a lot around here, I went to a RTC a while ago a pretty serious one too. It happened about 23:30 hours, we rock up to see carnage everywhere. I just start to deal with it when all of a sudden guess what mid-night................... All the street lights go out!!!  Now not only panic for the people involved in it, we can't see what we're doing or how to get the trapped persons out! A call to the council and 90 mins later some jobsworth turns up, oh I don't know about turning them on, it'll need an electrician 

Sure people don't think things through.....& don't get me started on so called 'Smart Motorways'

Whats one of those then. 

Oh they are coming to a motorway near you soon enough 

They put new gantrys up with new LED powered signals that vary the speed limit when traffic is heavy i.e, reducing it to 50mph (AND having speed cameras to enforce said limit on the new gantry). They can also open the hard shoulder to 'ease congestion'  Only they ain't thought about what happens if there's an almighty smash whilst 3 lanes & hard shoulder are in use!!! How are we supposed to get to it when the emergency lane is being used as a running lane???

Oh and as a bonus ! when traffic is light and there is no use for any of the gadgetery, the cameras are set at 70mph and will get you if you go above!!! 

That's worth knowing.

I'm ok, of course, I never break the speed limit.

Can someone please quote and edit my post to say something like "I'm ok, of course, my car won't do over 70"  Thanks.

[05omegav6]

Actually those street lights save enough energy cost to pay for themselves and still save money, give off a much better light and are more reliable than the old sodium ones.

The fact that they never seem to be on is down to local authorities turning the bloody things off at midnight rather than an issue with the lights themselves...

[ronnyd]

Local council turned the lights out at midnight about three years years ago. Cue the feral little tw*t who lived next door to have his equally feral mates around to cause a bit of mayhem. Thank God his nice( but useless ) parents have been evicted so peace returned. Oh, the lights still go off at twelve.

[kevinp58]

They're doing it a lot around here, I went to a RTC a while ago a pretty serious one too. It happened about 23:30 hours, we rock up to see carnage everywhere. I just start to deal with it when all of a sudden guess what mid-night................... All the street lights go out!!!  Now not only panic for the people involved in it, we can't see what we're doing or how to get the trapped persons out! A call to the council and 90 mins later some jobsworth turns up, oh I don't know about turning them on, it'll need an electrician 

Sure people don't think things through.....& don't get me started on so called 'Smart Motorways'

Whats one of those then. 

Oh they are coming to a motorway near you soon enough 

They put new gantrys up with new LED powered signals that vary the speed limit when traffic is heavy i.e, reducing it to 50mph (AND having speed cameras to enforce said limit on the new gantry). They can also open the hard shoulder to 'ease congestion'  Only they ain't thought about what happens if there's an almighty smash whilst 3 lanes & hard shoulder are in use!!! How are we supposed to get to it when the emergency lane is being used as a running lane???

Oh and as a bonus ! when traffic is light and there is no use for any of the gadgetery, the cameras are set at 70mph and will get you if you go above!!! 

That's worth knowing.




I'm ok, of course, my car will only do over 70"  Thanks.

changed that for you 

[kevinp58]

They're doing it a lot around here, I went to a RTC a while ago a pretty serious one too. It happened about 23:30 hours, we rock up to see carnage everywhere. I just start to deal with it when all of a sudden guess what mid-night................... All the street lights go out!!!  Now not only panic for the people involved in it, we can't see what we're doing or how to get the trapped persons out! A call to the council and 90 mins later some jobsworth turns up, oh I don't know about turning them on, it'll need an electrician 

Sure people don't think things through.....& don't get me started on so called 'Smart Motorways'

Whats one of those then. 

Oh they are coming to a motorway near you soon enough 

They put new gantrys up with new LED powered signals that vary the speed limit when traffic is heavy i.e, reducing it to 50mph (AND having speed cameras to enforce said limit on the new gantry). They can also open the hard shoulder to 'ease congestion'  Only they ain't thought about what happens if there's an almighty smash whilst 3 lanes & hard shoulder are in use!!! How are we supposed to get to it when the emergency lane is being used as a running lane???

Oh and as a bonus ! when traffic is light and there is no use for any of the gadgetery, the cameras are set at 70mph and will get you if you go above!!! 

Oh ok I know now and have seen them, I wonder what d**head decided that the breakdown or service lane could be used for a main lane  obviously some idiot that doesn't drive and lives in London and uses the busses 

[chrisgixer]

Well.. The idea is, the hard shoulder is used, UNLESS there's an incident. In which case, a smart person then closes the hard shoulder/lane1 (depending on condition. )


....ah, yes, a smart person. Ok, I see what your saying now....


There is a proposal for a smart motorway along the m4 from 5 to 13,I think it is. I don't think they realised though, that there are numerous bridges along that section, including two over the Thames, that are only three lanes wide to start with. Never mind the all important hard shoulder.

As I speak, the m4 is closed between 13 and 12 due to a tits up cement mixer. No amount of smartness is going to help with that.