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[TheBoy]

Accept that all ISP provided "free" routers are shite, and especially shite on wifi, then you can move on.

As a stopgap, set it to wpa (not wpa and wpa2 together), but security is weakened.

Solution, get a decent router. That means about £150+ to get out of the toy range

Are you saying the £50 Belkin,Netgear,Tp link for around £50-£60 are junk   

If they work for you, all well and good

But they are all sub standard.  Some of the TP Link ones have decent wifi, but poor router/modem firmwares.  The Belkin and Netgear ones are all quite poor really.

Well.....To be honest I dont find them that great..So Point us to a good router for a BT landline better than them cheap 50 quid ones   

Need more than that?

What are your needs, and what are the issues you are hitting? If its purely wifi, get a good quality separate access point, but avoid the cheap shite like netgear, belkin, cisco small business (ie, formerly Linksys) etc.  The exceptions are some of the TP Link and some of the Buffalo.

If its router stability, you're looking at that those routers aimed at small business such as Draytek and similar ilk

[Marks DTM Calib]

I have had a lot of success with an Asus N66 which I would rate as a middle of the road offering.

[tunnie]

Should add that 50 bucks is just for infinity broadband!

and people say sky is a rip off 

What?

I know the current half price offer is £7.50 for Infinity. No idea about usage limits, as I don't use BT here. Or does that £50 include landline rental?

Tell me about it, but it does include line rental. I have full beans fibre, the discount price ran out. My breakdown is:

Line Rental
18 May - 17 Jun 15
This is the cost of your Line Rental at £16.99 a month, charged in advance
from 18 May 2015 to 17 Jun 2015.
£16.99


Package Package
Broadband and Calls
18 May - 17 Jun 15
This is the cost of your Package at £27.65 a month, charged in advance from
18 May 2015 to 17 Jun 2015. This gives you:
Calling Plan Unlimited Weekend Calls
Broadband Unlimited BT Infinity 2

£27.65


TV BT Sport
BT Sport Pack
18 May - 17 Jun 15

Total rental and other charges
£44.64

[tunnie]

So basically £30 for fibre? 

When contract is out, I'm telling them I'm taking my uncle rupert sponsered tinterweb.

As staff I can't get Fibre free, that's £10/m, but I'm happy to go back to non-fibre, as all I would have to pay a month is line rental.

[Shackeng]

Accept that all ISP provided "free" routers are shite, and especially shite on wifi, then you can move on.

As a stopgap, set it to wpa (not wpa and wpa2 together), but security is weakened.

Solution, get a decent router. That means about £150+ to get out of the toy range

Are you saying the £50 Belkin,Netgear,Tp link for around £50-£60 are junk   

If they work for you, all well and good

But they are all sub standard.  Some of the TP Link ones have decent wifi, but poor router/modem firmwares.  The Belkin and Netgear ones are all quite poor really.

Well.....To be honest I dont find them that great..So Point us to a good router for a BT landline better than them cheap 50 quid ones   

Need more than that?

What are your needs, and what are the issues you are hitting? If its purely wifi, get a good quality separate access point, but avoid the cheap shite like netgear, belkin, cisco small business (ie, formerly Linksys) etc.  The exceptions are some of the TP Link and some of the Buffalo.

If its router stability, you're looking at that those routers aimed at small business such as Draytek and similar ilk

My Belkin G router works well on wi-fi throughout quite a large house. I guess I have had to re-boot it about once a year as a precaution.

[tigers_gonads]

ZyXEL routers are very popular around here with a very good range.
Apparently, they are very secure too 

[The Sheriff]

So basically £30 for fibre? 

When contract is out, I'm telling them I'm taking my uncle rupert sponsered tinterweb.

As staff I can't get Fibre free, that's £10/m, but I'm happy to go back to non-fibre, as all I would have to pay a month is line rental.

Like me 

[TheBoy]

Should add that 50 bucks is just for infinity broadband!

and people say sky is a rip off 

What?

I know the current half price offer is £7.50 for Infinity. No idea about usage limits, as I don't use BT here. Or does that £50 include landline rental?

Tell me about it, but it does include line rental. I have full beans fibre, the discount price ran out. My breakdown is:

Line Rental
18 May - 17 Jun 15
This is the cost of your Line Rental at £16.99 a month, charged in advance
from 18 May 2015 to 17 Jun 2015.
£16.99


Package Package
Broadband and Calls
18 May - 17 Jun 15
This is the cost of your Package at £27.65 a month, charged in advance from
18 May 2015 to 17 Jun 2015. This gives you:
Calling Plan Unlimited Weekend Calls
Broadband Unlimited BT Infinity 2

£27.65


TV BT Sport
BT Sport Pack
18 May - 17 Jun 15

Total rental and other charges
£44.64

I think that adds a few quid.

Like most things, unless you have specific requirements, shop around, and change annually (assuming you don't get work freebies!) to get the best deals.

I wish I could get fibre for £30

(actually, I could get it for free, but it's not suitable for my needs).

[TheBoy]

but I'm happy to go back to non-fibre

But would you?  All those cloud storage services become a pain, streaming becomes more problematic, working from home becomes tedious.....

I sure as heck wouldn't go back to a non fibre line.  I suspect once I've tasted ultrafast broadband, I wouldn't go back to superfast broadband, though can't see Brakkers getting that for 2 or 3 years.