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Fraggles Rock

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Are all 2.2s created equal?
« on: 20 January 2017, 09:28:25 »
I know that there are two 'generations' of the v6 fitted to the Omega... X2.5/3.0 and Y2.6/3.2... the obvious differences being dbw throttles and coil packs rather than leads.

I also know that all the 2.0 Omegas have X20 engines in either 8 or 16v form and all with cabled throttles.

But what of the 2.2? Are they all Y22 dbw engines, or are early ones X22?
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Re: Are all 2.2s created equal?
« Reply #1 on: 20 January 2017, 09:46:04 »
Yes all the same, there was actually some changes to the 2.0 16V in around 1997.5 when balance shafts were added to improve smoothness along with a  few other minor changes.
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Re: Are all 2.2s created equal?
« Reply #2 on: 20 January 2017, 09:57:44 »
Thanks :y

So cruise should simply be a case of clutch switch, stalk and possibly Tech 2 then...
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Re: Are all 2.2s created equal?
« Reply #3 on: 20 January 2017, 10:19:54 »
Quote from: Fraggles Rock on 20 January 2017, 09:57:44
Thanks :y

So cruise should simply be a case of clutch switch, stalk and possibly Tech 2 then...

Yes, exactly that  :y
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Re: Are all 2.2s created equal?
« Reply #4 on: 20 January 2017, 10:27:29 »
 8)

I had my eye on a CDX estate, and with no pictures of the left side of the car the seller described it as the same as the right side, with the odd dent... which I translated to "side stoved in" so didn't bother...

Trouble is, it seems like 85% of all Omegas are autos, so might be a question of buying on condition rather than spec, hence the question ;)
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Re: Are all 2.2s created equal?
« Reply #5 on: 20 January 2017, 23:42:28 »
Been digging, and seen suggestion that the 2.2 comes in Y22 and Z22 guises... not the X22/Y22  initially thought :-\

When did they change, what differences, and, does it matter which I look for with a view to my longer term project goal... Z20LEx

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Re: Are all 2.2s created equal?
« Reply #6 on: 21 January 2017, 00:36:10 »
The Y22XE and Z22XE were used in the Omega. The difference was the emissions spec., I believe, Not sure if there were any actual differences physically. maybe just engine management, or nothing at all.

The other Z22s (SE, etc.) are completely different 2.2 petrol 4 pots with chain driven cams used in the Vectra, etc. but never in the Omega.
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Re: Are all 2.2s created equal?
« Reply #7 on: 21 January 2017, 00:48:19 »
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 21 January 2017, 00:36:10
The Y22XE and Z22XE were used in the Omega. The difference was the emissions spec., I believe, Not sure if there were any actual differences physically. maybe just engine management, or nothing at all.

The other Z22s (SE, etc.) are completely different 2.2 petrol 4 pots with chain driven cams used in the Vectra, etc. but never in the Omega.
Ok, so the Omega lump is DBW regardless of Y/Z?

That the Vec C Z22 is a completely different beast is no bad thing... the fuel pump makes a dti pump look reliable :D Only frustration is that the chain driven lump won't fit the Omega box, rendering a Saturn blower conversion impossible ::)

Sounds like the Z20LEx should be pretty Omega friendly, which makes the idea viable...  8)
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Re: Are all 2.2s created equal?
« Reply #8 on: 21 January 2017, 20:11:44 »
Yep, all Omega 2.2s were DBW.
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Re: Are all 2.2s created equal?
« Reply #9 on: 21 January 2017, 22:04:24 »
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 21 January 2017, 20:11:44
Yep, all Omega 2.2s were DBW.
Ta :y

I see a plan forming... individually, the parts are pretty reasonable too, so looking like a goer, no pun intended :D
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