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[Doctor Gollum]

Picture of the offender that’s all mate

His picture is all over the place. Unless your observation is that he's black.

There are some pretty shitty white people as well.

I would suggest that the lazy media aren't interested in finding out anything about anything. If they wanted to go to his neighbours and ask questions they only have to go to the road named by the police. The Linked In profile is for someone who lives and works in the same area and has exactly the same name... Possible coincidence, but if they actually wanted any information it would be a good starting point.

[Sir Tigger KC]

There's a reason why we're not being told very much about Anthony Esan. 

Handily....  Oh look over there. Police brutality!!  

[Nick W]

There's a reason why we're not being told very much about Anthony Esan. 

Probably more than one, but they're not what you're implying.


The first, and main one is that pretty much everything beyond his name is a matter for his court appearance in a month. Others are what do you think we should know? Stabbing a REME Colonel is a weird thing for a terrorist to do, as Medway isn't short of easier, messier(an important consideration for terrorists), higher profile targets, and he'd have stuck around to have a go at the other soldiers arriving from their homes, barracks and school. Many of them are Gurkhas, and you'd have to special kind of nutter to attack them with knives . The immediate determination that he isn't a terrorist was made by people with more data than us. Finally, if he is a nutter with a bag of kitchen knives, then he's just a nutter with kitchen knives and there's little more to know.


And no, I'm not going to contact my friend who lives in the same road just to satisfy your prejudices.

[Raeturbo]

Picture of the offender that’s all mate

His picture is all over the place. Unless your observation is that he's black.

There are some pretty shitty white people as well.

I would suggest that the lazy media aren't interested in finding out anything about anything. If they wanted to go to his neighbours and ask questions they only have to go to the road named by the police. The Linked In profile is for someone who lives and works in the same area and has exactly the same name... Possible coincidence, but if they actually wanted any information it would be a good starting point.

No, you mentioned colour. I was providing a pic as I was under the impression you hadn’t seen one.
 I’m well aware of offenders black and white, but historically although recently, Blacks attacks on white soldiers are statistically very high taking into consideration the ratio of them, (I don’t need to elaborate you know) can you remember if a white man has tried to behead or stab a British soldier to death recently? Look, some are afraid to voice their views.   I’m not👍

[Doctor Gollum]

Sorry Rae, but you were trying to be clever by implying rather than mentioning his colour.

His colour is irrelevant and you don't have to look too far from Wales to see regular incidences of white British and Irish people attacking British troops. Fortunately that particular status quo has diminished somewhat over the last 20 years or so, but it went on long enough.

And for the record I was asking if your point was that he was black... Which apparently it was.

[Doctor Gollum]

Regardless of what people might like to think, this country is still run on the principle of law and order. And as such if someone does something, regardless of how heinous, they have a right to be processed by the judicial system in exactly the same manner as their victims have the right to be protected by that same system.

And as stupid as the following sketch is, it pretty well sums up what's going on in several discussions here.

https://youtu.be/pp8aW78zxNE?si=QTkqEMpc4KdYYT3A

[Raeturbo]

Sorry Rae, but you were trying to be clever by implying rather than mentioning his colour.

His colour is irrelevant and you don't have to look too far from Wales to see regular incidences of white British and Irish people attacking British troops. Fortunately that particular status quo has diminished somewhat over the last 20 years or so, but it went on long enough.

And for the record I was asking if your point was that he was black... Which apparently it was.

Whereas you you have a couple of valid points there. I was certainly not trying to be clever …. I was actually being cautious as I’ve recently been warned about my comments. Don’t confuse me however with softie type opinions you would always be wrong👍

[Doctor Gollum]

Sorry Rae, but you were trying to be clever by implying rather than mentioning his colour.

His colour is irrelevant and you don't have to look too far from Wales to see regular incidences of white British and Irish people attacking British troops. Fortunately that particular status quo has diminished somewhat over the last 20 years or so, but it went on long enough.

And for the record I was asking if your point was that he was black... Which apparently it was.

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[Doctor Gollum]

Sorry Rae, but you were trying to be clever by implying rather than mentioning his colour.

His colour is irrelevant and you don't have to look too far from Wales to see regular incidences of white British and Irish people attacking British troops. Fortunately that particular status quo has diminished somewhat over the last 20 years or so, but it went on long enough.

And for the record I was asking if your point was that he was black... Which apparently it was.

Whereas you you have a couple of valid points there. I was certainly not trying to be clever …. I was actually being cautious as I’ve recently been warned about my comments. Don’t confuse me however with softie type opinions you would always be wrong👍

That was your collection of randomly disguised words all in one place, which is actually within the forum rules The odd one is tolerated, but all of them in one sentence less so

As for the rest, no one would accuse you of having a softie type opinion and at least you don't backtrack if someone challenges you on something 

Btw, I am generally of a similar opinion on most things fwiw even if I do try to be open minded about some things.

[Raeturbo]

Agreed👍 I  think I’m a bit older than you but less tolerant. It’s hard to see our country being given away to this collective bunch of non conforming non intergreating ungreatful lot of non indigenous folk taking the piss and slowly but surely imposing their ungodly cruel backward way upon us. Sorry if this rubs a bit hard on some of the more leftist type but I have my own opinions and am not afraid of expressing them. You just observe the difference in police behaviour in Manchester protests to Tommy Robbisons March. THEY WILL NOT LET HIM MATCH QUIETLY, whereas the slightest interference with protesters of let’s say Hamas supporters is met with severe consequences, Christ sake you can’t even fly a Union Jack now mun🤬 and yet the shit and flags others have on display is allowed not to mention the threats and behaviour at Manchester police station they were saying they will burn it to the ground. I think it’s time we smelled the coffee.

[Doctor Gollum]

The trouble with extremity view points, is that the further you go either way, it garners a similarly extreme opposition.

Everybody needs to calm the break down and then perhaps everyone can genuinely be treated equally within the law.

The Mancchester thing would have been a bit of argy bargy sorted efficiently with the minimum of fuss, but the second that copper kicked, it became something more and played into the hands of the race chasers.

[Sir Tigger KC]

There's a reason why we're not being told very much about Anthony Esan. 

Probably more than one, but they're not what you're implying.


The first, and main one is that pretty much everything beyond his name is a matter for his court appearance in a month. Others are what do you think we should know? Stabbing a REME Colonel is a weird thing for a terrorist to do, as Medway isn't short of easier, messier(an important consideration for terrorists), higher profile targets, and he'd have stuck around to have a go at the other soldiers arriving from their homes, barracks and school. Many of them are Gurkhas, and you'd have to special kind of nutter to attack them with knives . The immediate determination that he isn't a terrorist was made by people with more data than us. Finally, if he is a nutter with a bag of kitchen knives, then he's just a nutter with kitchen knives and there's little more to know.


And no, I'm not going to contact my friend who lives in the same road just to satisfy your prejudices.

Not prejudices mate, just cynicism.   

[Raeturbo]

Indeed the race changers as you say are running the police ragged. I wish we could all live peacefully. But you must see these people are trying to enforce their laws on us and take over our way of life/culture call it what you will, Just imagine what we could do with the 2% gdp spent on defence in the Uk if it was used for health peace development etc etc. same goes for everywhere else on Earth. We really are a bunch of wasters as a species how the hell we have lasted so long fighting and hating each other is a wonder in itself. I’ve said it before we don’t deserve this rare beautiful planet. The animals would do a better job of utilising its wealth of gifts. If there were such a thing as an advanced alien crowd flying past us and saw what we have done and are doing and how we are treating what we’ve been lucky enough to get I bet they would blast the place out of existence if they could. Just another way of looking at things👍