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rather Visssssta
« on: 26 September 2008, 15:04:17 »
OK....i rather give up with this pile of shite   >:( >:( >:( >:(

this was the whole reason why i bought a load of Mac kit....so much easier

Where the hell do you find the Mac addresses within Vista....and before anyone says 'on the bottom of the PC' don't, they dont have them

I need to connect 2 machines to my network and neither of them seem to want to give me the mac address.......

So far i have spent 2 hours looking, in that time i have set up

Xbox 360
Iphone
Blackberry
Macbook and mini mac
Apple TV
Wii
Elonex linux pc

why do microshit have to make things so bloody difficult  >:( >:(
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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #1 on: 26 September 2008, 15:06:27 »
on xp

start - run

write "cmd.exe" (ok)

write "ipconfig -all"

must be similiar on vista :y
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« Reply #2 on: 26 September 2008, 15:09:41 »
although the link is in Turkish you can follow

http://bilisim.marmara.edu.tr/icerik/mac-adresi-ogrenme.php
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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #3 on: 26 September 2008, 15:11:22 »
Yup, same as all Windows - ipconfig /all
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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #4 on: 26 September 2008, 15:52:59 »
cheers chaps....... :y

poxy windows   >:( >:( >:(
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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #5 on: 26 September 2008, 15:56:20 »
just out of curiosity can you do the same with linux?
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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #6 on: 26 September 2008, 16:00:27 »
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just out of curiosity can you do the same with linux?

ifconfig should tell you everything you need to know.  :y

:~# ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:31:52:2F:BD
          inet addr:192.168.1.8  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::217:31ff:fe52:2fbd/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:91884736 errors:11 dropped:867 overruns:0 frame:11
          TX packets:48785689 errors:64 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:64
          collisions:23581892 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:4058936738 (3.7 GiB)  TX bytes:3731109901 (3.4 GiB)
          Base address:0xd800 Memory:cffe0000-d0000000




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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #7 on: 26 September 2008, 16:31:25 »
Most Unix can do ifconfig -a - with Linux, just ifconfig to show plumbed interfaces.  ifconfig on its own won't work in Solaris.
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« Reply #8 on: 26 September 2008, 16:32:58 »
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just out of curiosity can you do the same with linux?

ifconfig should tell you everything you need to know.  :y

:~# ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:31:52:2F:BD
          inet addr:192.168.1.8  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::217:31ff:fe52:2fbd/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:91884736 errors:11 dropped:867 overruns:0 frame:11
          TX packets:48785689 errors:64 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:64
          collisions:23581892 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:4058936738 (3.7 GiB)  TX bytes:3731109901 (3.4 GiB)
          Base address:0xd800 Memory:cffe0000-d0000000




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Is your duplex setting right - you're gettign a shit load of collisions.  Or are you using a shitting hub (does another still use hubs?)
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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #9 on: 26 September 2008, 16:50:59 »
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Is your duplex setting right - you're gettign a nuts load of collisions.  Or are you using a shitting hub (does another still use hubs?)

That machine was until recently connected via a 10mb hub. Probably hasn't been restarted since.  :-[

In my defence I ran out of sockets and said hub was the nearest device that would join a couple of RJ45s. ::)

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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #10 on: 26 September 2008, 16:51:33 »
poxy windows   >:( >:( >:([/quote]

Nowt wrong if you know how to use it!

I say poxy OSx
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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #11 on: 27 September 2008, 00:55:54 »
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poxy windows   >:( >:( >:(

Nowt wrong if you know how to use it!

I say poxy OSx[/quote]

each to their own, me personally would prefer OSX, for one stability........

Missus has to reboot her Vista thing on a daily basis, the Mac has now been running for over 6 weeks and still no sign of a reboot, even the downloads have not required a restart......

and i train people on windows as well, the DOS side is not something i deal in but XP/Vista is a daily occurance  >:(
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Re: rather Visssssta
« Reply #12 on: 27 September 2008, 09:40:24 »
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poxy windows   >:( >:( >:(

Nowt wrong if you know how to use it!

I say poxy OSx

each to their own, me personally would prefer OSX, for one stability........

Missus has to reboot her Vista thing on a daily basis, the Mac has now been running for over 6 weeks and still no sign of a reboot, even the downloads have not required a restart......

and i train people on windows as well, the DOS side is not something i deal in but XP/Vista is a daily occurance  >:(
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NT based Windows don't need daily reboots, unless the apps are a bit naughty.

Same with Unix/Linux, the OS is generally stable - particularly proper Unix.  Its the apps that generally cause the issues.


Where Windows does appear to be better is resource management when apps ask for more than can be delivered.  Linux in particular seems to be problematic in this respect - Windows will recover if you can kill the rogue process, Linux can't.


And anyone who says its easier to kill rogue processes under unix is telling porkies.  Frequently even kill -9 won't kill it. Under Solaris, I'm well versed in typing reboot - d to crashdump, and restart  (or to break, and sync) >:(
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« Reply #13 on: 27 September 2008, 14:40:33 »
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poxy windows   >:( >:( >:(

Nowt wrong if you know how to use it!

I say poxy OSx

each to their own, me personally would prefer OSX, for one stability........

Missus has to reboot her Vista thing on a daily basis, the Mac has now been running for over 6 weeks and still no sign of a reboot, even the downloads have not required a restart......

and i train people on windows as well, the DOS side is not something i deal in but XP/Vista is a daily occurance  >:(
NT based Windows don't need daily reboots, unless the apps are a bit naughty.
Same with Unix/Linux, the OS is generally stable - particularly proper Unix.  Its the apps that generally cause the issues.


Where Windows does appear to be better is resource management when apps ask for more than can be delivered.  Linux in particular seems to be problematic in this respect - Windows will recover if you can kill the rogue process, Linux can't.


And anyone who says its easier to kill rogue processes under unix is telling porkies.  Frequently even kill -9 won't kill it. Under Solaris, I'm well versed in typing reboot - d to crashdump, and restart  (or to break, and sync) >:(
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most programmers dont dispose or free their allocated memory structures, even some of them dont know what it is ;D
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« Reply #14 on: 27 September 2008, 17:37:30 »
I'll agree with TB for once, Linux 'can' have some issues with resources not being freed if the app is killed or segfaults, but its not always the case (I've not come across that on my Gentoo install anyways, although I've never had an app bomb out and need manual killing other than Flash running under wine...)

Only 1 error too on my network interfaces :)

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gsi ~ # ifconfig -a
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:1a:18:f4:06  
          inet addr:10.0.0.10  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::200:1aff:fe18:f406/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:71571228 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:4
          TX packets:64441477 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:47642120575 (44.3 GiB)  TX bytes:29730588858 (27.6 GiB)
          Interrupt:31

eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:1a:18:f4:07  
          inet addr:192.168.5.1  Bcast:192.168.5.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::200:1aff:fe18:f407/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:56948810 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:64355002 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:25407250232 (23.6 GiB)  TX bytes:46726016947 (43.5 GiB)
          Interrupt:28

even then the cause of that was the router getting kicked and losing power...  44days since last reboot too.
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