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[Phil]

To be honest, you pay your money you take your choice.

If a car is realy cheap theres prob a reason for it.

But equally an expensive car could turn out to be an old st1tter.

If you know more about repairing an Omega then buy one of those incaes it does go tits up

[Marks DTM Calib]

Bearings and hall sensors fail......dizzy cap and rotor are a service item realy.

You might say.....gadgets I can do without but......fan speed is quite a key gadget....and a common failure!

[Admin]

Bearings and hall sensors fail......dizzy cap and rotor are a service item realy.

You might say.....gadgets I can do without but......fan speed is quite a key gadget....and a common failure!

I am sure a replacement fan switch can be set up easily enough....

[Marks DTM Calib]

But, Tunnie will overtighten the toggle switch bolt........

[Gwilym]

Just got home with mine. Probably won't be driving the Omega for as while now.

I LOVE THE SENNY

[Big Rod]

I await Big Rods comments on here...

OK here goes...............

A 12v C30NE Senator is pretty much indestructable as opposed to the 24v C30SE but at the sacrifice of 30 odd BHP.

I'm inclined to agree that the chains debate is a bit of a storm in a teacup. However this was an issue that Vx recognised and recalled a lot of them to have the chains replaced. These should have a 'blue spot' somewhere around the Dual Ram servo on the induction piping. But can you be guaranteed that it's been done and not just some greedy dealer 'dotting' it and claiming the warranty work? Upgraded, (F1 spec), chains and replacement guides are available through the Autobahnstormers.

One thing I do know goes the way of the pear is the CHG at some point after 100k miles. The gasket between the oil channels and the outside world leaks down the off side of the engine block. It's sometimes misdiagnosed as a sump leak. It's best to get it fixed there and then before the coolant and oil start mixing. If they do, you can say goodbye to your bottom end after about 2k miles.

Once you procure your Senator, if you want to keep it, the parts alone to do the CHG and chains properly will set you back about £700. If you can do the job yourself, (I did once and it is by no means impossible!!). Fit an ABS chip, remove the cat's, skim the head/block, fit a widened throttle body , do a bit of porting and match the induction ports while the head's off and fit a K&N filter then you should realise about 240 (conservative estimate!) BHP.

There are other issues like the one's with the dizzy that Mark pointed out and the oil cooler thermostat have a regular habit of failing, but is never noticed until the car is thrashed.

Finding one with working aircon is difficult but not ultimately impossible.

If you're looking for reliability, find a very late 3.0 12v model they have better fueling systems and have bigger valve heads to compensate for cats. If you want power, get a 24v, but they need looking after.

All ecu upgrades and many parts are available through the Autobahnstormers.

And if you need any spares, I've got loads!!

And if you want to know anything else, let me know, I'm happy to help.

[tunnie]

Fantastic, thanks. Just seen photos of Gwilym's new purchase, they do look nice and very comfy.

I think i am going to go for power, its going to be a full car with a lot of stuff in there, so might need those extra horses!

I keep going back to look at the photos, looks damn nice. My friends say i have a strange taste in cars, but I don't care he drives a pug 306!!

Looks like there are some real experts out there, however one bonus of the Senator was cheap insurance (classic) however after ringing up a few places, seams to be not the case. They refuse to insure under 25's with anything bigger than 2.0's generally  

Both Footman James and several others will not allow me, even as a named driver on a 3.0 Senator  

[Gwilym]

Fantastic, thanks. Just seen photos of Gwilym's new purchase, they do look nice and very comfy.

I think i am going to go for power, its going to be a full car with a lot of stuff in there, so might need those extra horses!

I keep going back to look at the photos, looks damn nice. My friends say i have a strange taste in cars, but I don't care he drives a pug 306!!

Looks like there are some real experts out there, however one bonus of the Senator was cheap insurance (classic) however after ringing up a few places, seams to be not the case. They refuse to insure under 25's with anything bigger than 2.0's generally  

Both Footman James and several others will not allow me, even as a named driver on a 3.0 Senator  

I might be a bit older than you (not that old though). Classic Car insurance around £130 for me

[tunnie]

But, Tunnie will overtighten the toggle switch bolt........

 

[tunnie]

Fantastic, thanks. Just seen photos of Gwilym's new purchase, they do look nice and very comfy.

I think i am going to go for power, its going to be a full car with a lot of stuff in there, so might need those extra horses!

I keep going back to look at the photos, looks damn nice. My friends say i have a strange taste in cars, but I don't care he drives a pug 306!!

Looks like there are some real experts out there, however one bonus of the Senator was cheap insurance (classic) however after ringing up a few places, seams to be not the case. They refuse to insure under 25's with anything bigger than 2.0's generally  

Both Footman James and several others will not allow me, even as a named driver on a 3.0 Senator  

I might be a bit older than you (not that old though). Classic Car insurance around £130 for me

Thing is are you over 25? If so no problem for you lot, it seams getting a big engined car under my own classic policy is unlikley

[Big Rod]

I think i am going to go for power, its going to be a full car with a lot of stuff in there, so might need those extra horses!

Mate if this is for your trip, I'd go for the 12v every time. They run about 170 BHP. I had an early 12v Carlton GSI manual and that wasn't shy I tell thee!!

I found our 2.0 16v Omega perfectly adequate for three big blokes and all their gubbins and my guess is that that wasn't putting out as much as it maybe should've.

My advice is stick with a 12v for the trip, give it a couple of oil changes and it won't break!!

And if you can get a manual then more's the better!

[tunnie]

I think i am going to go for power, its going to be a full car with a lot of stuff in there, so might need those extra horses!

Mate if this is for your trip, I'd go for the 12v every time. They run about 170 BHP. I had an early 12v Carlton GSI manual and that wasn't shy I tell thee!!

I found our 2.0 16v Omega perfectly adequate for three big blokes and all their gubbins and my guess is that that wasn't putting out as much as it maybe should've.

My advice is stick with a 12v for the trip, give it a couple of oil changes and it won't break!!

And if you can get a manual then more's the better!

I just had a look around the 12v ones don't seam to be as common as the 24v, there is one going in Swindon i know of but thats the 24v version.

Tbh i'd prefer an Auto for driving though Europe..

[Big Rod]

Tbh i'd prefer an Auto for driving though Europe..

Sorry, I was assuming you were after as much grunt at the wheels as poss'.

Auto's are ten a penny.

[bestseany]

They refuse to insure under 25's with anything bigger than 2.0's generally  

Both Footman James and several others will not allow me, even as a named driver on a 3.0 Senator  

That seems odd mate. I've only just turned 23 and I insure my 3.0 Omega Elite for £400!

[tunnie]

They refuse to insure under 25's with anything bigger than 2.0's generally  

Both Footman James and several others will not allow me, even as a named driver on a 3.0 Senator  

That seems odd mate. I've only just turned 23 and I insure my 3.0 Omega Elite for £400!

Who are you with, is it as a classic policy?

With direct line i can get a 3.0 Senator insured for around £360 fully comp