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[Del Boy]

without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office

Hmmm what about the jobs us Brits don't want too do....the jobs that don't pay enough for us too do...the jobs we don't have enough skilled personnel too fill.

There's thousands of jobs available...but people seem too think that because they had an office job there too good too work in a warehouse....warehouse workers too good too work in a factory....factory worker too good too be a cleaner....see where im coming from.

Then there's nursing positions....friend of mine is a fully qualified nurse in the philippines (trained too american levels) yet he has too work in a care home here as his credentials are not recognized....another was a senior chemotherapy nurse and again until he at his own expense sat the uk exams couldn't work in his own specialised field.

Neither complain about it...they just get on and do it,THEY do it as theres not enough Brits wanting too do the work.

So its more a case we DONT want the work yet we DONT want others too do it either.... :-?

Agree with that to some extent but, most of the jobs are taken by foreigners' meaning that British people can't do it.

[stuart30]

without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office

Hmmm what about the jobs us Brits don't want too do....the jobs that don't pay enough for us too do...the jobs we don't have enough skilled personnel too fill.

There's thousands of jobs available...but people seem too think that because they had an office job there too good too work in a warehouse....warehouse workers too good too work in a factory....factory worker too good too be a cleaner....see where im coming from.

Then there's nursing positions....friend of mine is a fully qualified nurse in the philippines (trained too american levels) yet he has too work in a care home here as his credentials are not recognized....another was a senior chemotherapy nurse and again until he at his own expense sat the uk exams couldn't work in his own specialised field.

Neither complain about it...they just get on and do it,THEY do it as theres not enough Brits wanting too do the work.

So its more a case we DONT want the work yet we DONT want others too do it either.... :-?

Agree with that to some extent but, most of the jobs are taken by foreigners' meaning that British people can't do it.

Cant or wont....id say the latter.

And maybe we should be asking why they might have a job instead of a Brit...maybe there more skilled.

[Del Boy]

without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office

Hmmm what about the jobs us Brits don't want too do....the jobs that don't pay enough for us too do...the jobs we don't have enough skilled personnel too fill.

There's thousands of jobs available...but people seem too think that because they had an office job there too good too work in a warehouse....warehouse workers too good too work in a factory....factory worker too good too be a cleaner....see where im coming from.

Then there's nursing positions....friend of mine is a fully qualified nurse in the philippines (trained too american levels) yet he has too work in a care home here as his credentials are not recognized....another was a senior chemotherapy nurse and again until he at his own expense sat the uk exams couldn't work in his own specialised field.

Neither complain about it...they just get on and do it,THEY do it as theres not enough Brits wanting too do the work.

So its more a case we DONT want the work yet we DONT want others too do it either.... :-?

Agree with that to some extent but, most of the jobs are taken by foreigners' meaning that British people can't do it.

Cant or wont....id say the latter.

And maybe we should be asking why they might have a job instead of a Brit...maybe there more skilled.

Is it that they are more skilled or is it that they work for less money?
A friend of mine has had all of his overtime cut because it is being filled with temps instead is that fair?

[stuart30]

without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office

Hmmm what about the jobs us Brits don't want too do....the jobs that don't pay enough for us too do...the jobs we don't have enough skilled personnel too fill.

There's thousands of jobs available...but people seem too think that because they had an office job there too good too work in a warehouse....warehouse workers too good too work in a factory....factory worker too good too be a cleaner....see where im coming from.

Then there's nursing positions....friend of mine is a fully qualified nurse in the philippines (trained too american levels) yet he has too work in a care home here as his credentials are not recognized....another was a senior chemotherapy nurse and again until he at his own expense sat the uk exams couldn't work in his own specialised field.

Neither complain about it...they just get on and do it,THEY do it as theres not enough Brits wanting too do the work.

So its more a case we DONT want the work yet we DONT want others too do it either.... :-?

Agree with that to some extent but, most of the jobs are taken by foreigners' meaning that British people can't do it.

Cant or wont....id say the latter.

And maybe we should be asking why they might have a job instead of a Brit...maybe there more skilled.

Is it that they are more skilled or is it that they work for less money?
A friend of mine has had all of his overtime cut because it is being filled with temps instead is that fair?

But there not the problem....its the employer at fault.

I understand what your saying but really we cant blame others for simply taking advantage of a greedy employer.

[cem_devecioglu]

from the beginning of this thread I read with a high interest..

As a foreign member of this forum  if I have right to talk on that subject  I want to say some words..

main problem is and not only in UK also in whole world

Global capitalism is knocking your door..with cheap and hungry labour as a tool..and forcing you to work with lower salaries and less guarantee and rights..

only solution is that all the workers must come together..and make an organization .. :-/

and I also must add that the local employers are forced to have low salary workers in order to[ch305] compete..

in my country also nowadays employers choose oother countries to make factories and some other producing facilities where the labour is cheap..

[STMO123]

from the beginning of this thread I read with a high interest..

As a foreign member of this forum  if I have right to talk on that subject  I want to say some words..

main problem is and not only in UK also in whole world

Global capitalism is knocking your door..with cheap and hungry labour as a tool..and forcing you to work with lower salaries and less guarantee and rights..

only solution is that all the workers must come together..and make an organization .. :-/

Good idea. We'll call it..erm...a union

[cem_devecioglu]

from the beginning of this thread I read with a high interest..

As a foreign member of this forum  if I have right to talk on that subject  I want to say some words..

main problem is and not only in UK also in whole world

Global capitalism is knocking your door..with cheap and hungry labour as a tool..and forcing you to work with lower salaries and less guarantee and rights..

only solution is that all the workers must come together..and make an organization .. :-/

Good idea. We'll call it..erm...a union

I know..but you need something stronger than a union

[cem_devecioglu]

in my country these unions abilities and legal rights are completely cut and become useless.. And I dont think yours are very different..

[STMO123]

It's pie in the sky Cem. Everyone is only interested in their own circumstances. A bit like Nero fiddling while Rome burned, but that's the way it is. Learn to live with it and just look after your own.

[cem_devecioglu]

continued from first post/.......

The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not commit itself to any particular denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health only from within on the basis of the principle: The common interest before self-interest.

24. To put the whole of this programme into effect, we demand the creation of a strong central state power for the Country; the unconditional authority of the political central Parliament over the entire Country and its organizations; and the formation of Corporations based on estate and occupation for the purpose of carrying out the general legislation passed by the British in the various British states.

The leaders of the Party promise to work ruthlessly -- if need be to sacrifice their very lives -- to translate this programme into action.

Don't worry, I have not published a new manifest for my British Nationalist Party!!

I have just reworked the original 25 point plan of Hitler and the Nazis from April 20th 1920.

Judging by what some are muttering at the moment, perhaps this is what you want??   But just remember what happened between 1933 and 1945!!   A warning from History!

 

Lizzie , I think you will be succcesful in politics

[cem_devecioglu]

It's pie in the sky Cem. Everyone is only interested in their own circumstances. A bit like Nero fiddling while Rome burned, but that's the way it is. Learn to live with it and just look after your own.

UK have real accumulation of knowledge in unions and other related things..considering its early industrialization structure and level of culture..   Believe me its a pie in front of your nose

[Jay w]

seeing as how we are discussing this i will chuck my twopenneth worth.

I feel there is no reason for the strike/protest, the contract was won by tender, a foreign company won that tender and it is up to them as to who they employ.
They claim that the skillset required is not in the area to carry out the task, if that's the case then again why is there all this moaning.
If the sucsessful company want to bring in their own staff from another country then so be it.

Like it or not we now live in the european market, we have as much right to go into another country and work in their environment, i have no doubt they will moan about that as well, but hey its a free market.

    

[miggy]

The title of the topic says it all

[cem_devecioglu]

seeing as how we are discussing this i will chuck my twopenneth worth.

I feel there is no reason for the strike/protest, the contract was won by tender, a foreign company won that tender and it is up to them as to who they employ.
They claim that the skillset required is not in the area to carry out the task, if that's the case then again why is there all this moaning.
If the sucsessful company want to bring in their own staff from another country then so be it.

Like it or not we now live in the european market, we have as much right to go into another country and work in their environment, i have no doubt they will moan about that as well, but hey its a free market.

    

trust me if they only moan thats very good..they will not be gentle like you

[gwa]

seeing as how we are discussing this i will chuck my twopenneth worth.

I feel there is no reason for the strike/protest, the contract was won by tender, a foreign company won that tender and it is up to them as to who they employ.
They claim that the skillset required is not in the area to carry out the task, if that's the case then again why is there all this moaning.
If the sucsessful company want to bring in their own staff from another country then so be it.

Like it or not we now live in the european market, we have as much right to go into another country and work in their environment, i have no doubt they will moan about that as well, but hey its a free market.

    

Hey, you are confusing the European Union, which we are a member of! and the Common Market, which we voted to join. Don't blame foreigners they are just playing by the rules that this and other 'nammby pammby goverments think-up. I would also like to refer back to the thread a week or two ago "I'm not British, I'M ENGLISH".