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[Mr Skrunts]

Strictly Come Dancing lost out big style toThe X Factor on Saturday Night.

The BBC appartly refuse to change the time slot with an attempt to win the ratings war.


Why cant we the viewing public just have the best of both worlds if we chose to,rather than be forced to watch one or the other.  :-/



I personaly have never watched SCD nd of the 2 Iwould prefr to watch X Factor.

[Jimbob]

should you want to, record one, watch the other.

tv ratings have always been about pitching good against good to win the primetime war.

I watch very little live, stuff I like records, and I watch on my schedule.

[Nickbat]

It's a fatuous game played by the egotists in the BBC. It doesn't matter financially to the BBC whether they "win" a ratings battle or not. In the case of ITV, it does matter, as they need the viewing figures to pull in the advertising.

My own view is that the clash of schedules was a deliberate act by the Beeb to put one over ITV. Sad that the viewers are the real losers in what is, essentially, a childish game.     

[CaptainZok]

It's a fatuous game played by the egotists in the BBC. It doesn't matter financially to the BBC whether they "win" a ratings battle or not. In the case of ITV, it does matter, as they need the viewing figures to pull in the advertising.

My own view is that the clash of schedules was a deliberate act by the Beeb to put one over ITV. Sad that the viewers are the real losers in what is, essentially, a childish game.     

The viewers will always be the losers whilst the TV companies peddle this mindless pap as Saturday night entertainment you mean Nick.

[Nickbat]

It's a fatuous game played by the egotists in the BBC. It doesn't matter financially to the BBC whether they "win" a ratings battle or not. In the case of ITV, it does matter, as they need the viewing figures to pull in the advertising.

My own view is that the clash of schedules was a deliberate act by the Beeb to put one over ITV. Sad that the viewers are the real losers in what is, essentially, a childish game.     

The viewers will always be the losers whilst the TV companies peddle this mindless pap as Saturday night entertainment you mean Nick.

Not sure I do, Zok. Saturday evenings have, traditionally, featured family entertainment, by which I mean shows that appeal across the age range. We can look back at The Generation Game, Opportunity Knocks and the like. For the rest of the week, there's precious little that adults and children can watch together. I'm not personally keen on X Factor, partly because we are not watching Opportunity Knocks, but rather an embarrassing procession of people who have no talent, but think they have, making absolute fools of themselves. Of course, sometimes, a good act is accidentally shown! 

As regards Strictly, my family enjoys it and I am particularly happy that my daughter is enthusiastic. (Indeed, I am happier for her to watch that than the appalling Newsround on CBBC). Dancing has been around for ages and it cannot be denied that Strictly  has promoted a surge in dancing, which is no bad thing in my book. (Even though I have six left feet and have to be gagged screaming onto a dance floor, even at weddings!). Also, it cannot be denied that it does impart some interesting details with regard to the technical moves expected in certain dances.

So, no, not pap.

Pap is EastEnders and Big Brother, two programmes that have no redeeming qualities at all in my book. 

[Dishevelled Den]

It's a fatuous game played by the egotists in the BBC. It doesn't matter financially to the BBC whether they "win" a ratings battle or not. In the case of ITV, it does matter, as they need the viewing figures to pull in the advertising.

My own view is that the clash of schedules was a deliberate act by the Beeb to put one over ITV. Sad that the viewers are the real losers in what is, essentially, a childish game.     

The viewers will always be the losers whilst the TV companies peddle this mindless pap as Saturday night entertainment you mean Nick.

In one, CZ

[Dishevelled Den]

Not sure I do, Zok. Saturday evenings have, traditionally, featured family entertainment, by which I mean shows that appeal across the age range. We can look back at The Generation Game, Opportunity Knocks and the like. For the rest of the week, there's precious little that adults and children can watch together. I'm not personally keen on X Factor, partly because we are not watching Opportunity Knocks, but rather an embarrassing procession of people who have no talent, but think they have, making absolute fools of themselves. Of course, sometimes, a good act is accidentally shown! 

As regards Strictly, my family enjoys it and I am particularly happy that my daughter is enthusiastic. (Indeed, I am happier for her to watch that than the appalling Newsround on CBBC). Dancing has been around for ages and it cannot be denied that Strictly  has promoted a surge in dancing, which is no bad thing in my book. (Even though I have six left feet and have to be gagged screaming onto a dance floor, even at weddings!). Also, it cannot be denied that it does impart some interesting details with regard to the technical moves expected in certain dances.

So, no, not pap.

Pap is EastEnders and Big Brother, two programmes that have no redeeming qualities at all in my book. 

You're more than correct in your final comments Nick and also of those regarding the talent show but insofar as the dancing show is concerned, surely the popularity of this is predicated by the appearance of 'celebrities' as contestants.

To me this apparent popularity is garnered by the voyeuristic tendencies of viewers more interested in the ‘personality’ rather than competition?

[Nickbat]

Not sure I do, Zok. Saturday evenings have, traditionally, featured family entertainment, by which I mean shows that appeal across the age range. We can look back at The Generation Game, Opportunity Knocks and the like. For the rest of the week, there's precious little that adults and children can watch together. I'm not personally keen on X Factor, partly because we are not watching Opportunity Knocks, but rather an embarrassing procession of people who have no talent, but think they have, making absolute fools of themselves. Of course, sometimes, a good act is accidentally shown! 

As regards Strictly, my family enjoys it and I am particularly happy that my daughter is enthusiastic. (Indeed, I am happier for her to watch that than the appalling Newsround on CBBC). Dancing has been around for ages and it cannot be denied that Strictly  has promoted a surge in dancing, which is no bad thing in my book. (Even though I have six left feet and have to be gagged screaming onto a dance floor, even at weddings!). Also, it cannot be denied that it does impart some interesting details with regard to the technical moves expected in certain dances.

So, no, not pap.

Pap is EastEnders and Big Brother, two programmes that have no redeeming qualities at all in my book. 

You're more than correct in your final comments Nick and also of those regarding the talent show but insofar as the dancing show is concerned, surely the popularity of this is predicated by the appearance of 'celebrities' as contestants.

To me this apparent popularity is garnered by the voyeuristic tendencies of viewers more interested in the ‘personality’ rather than competition?

That is true, but I'm not sure it would work as a programme if you had members of the public, for the simple reason that the ongoing format would require the producers to have such contestants as would be able to maintain the viewers' interests for 10 or so weeks. Inevitably, the contestants in such a scenario would be vetted prior to being chosen to ensure that dead boring, camera-shy, folks weren't picked. By extrapolation, only those who were able to handle the celebrity status would be picked, i.e. wannabe celebs.

Of course we're all voyeurs to an extent. I want to see David Milliband gunged, how voyeuristic is that?     

[Dishevelled Den]

That is true, but I'm not sure it would work as a programme if you had members of the public, for the simple reason that the ongoing format would require the producers to have such contestants as would be able to maintain the viewers' interests for 10 or so weeks. Inevitably, the contestants in such a scenario would be vetted prior to being chosen to ensure that dead boring, camera-shy, folks weren't picked. By extrapolation, only those who were able to handle the celebrity status would be picked, i.e. wannabe celebs.

Of course we're all voyeurs to an extent. I want to see David Milliband gunged, how voyeuristic is that?     

....I suppose it depends on whether or not he was naked at the time


In relation the main body of your post, I can accept that without difficulty but the show and others like it are not for me as I still feel that their raisons d’être is  about ratings and world-wide sales rather than wholesome family entertainment.

[STMO999]

Strictly Come Dancing lost out big style toThe X Factor on Saturday Night.

The BBC appartly refuse to change the time slot with an attempt to win the ratings war.


Why cant we the viewing public just have the best of both worlds if we chose to,rather than be forced to watch one or the other.  :-/



I personaly have never watched SCD nd of the 2 Iwould prefr to watch X Factor.

I do hope you are joking, you sad bastard.

[Mr Skrunts]

Strictly Come Dancing lost out big style toThe X Factor on Saturday Night.

The BBC appartly refuse to change the time slot with an attempt to win the ratings war.


Why cant we the viewing public just have the best of both worlds if we chose to,rather than be forced to watch one or the other.  :-/



I personaly have never watched SCD nd of the 2 Iwould prefr to watch X Factor.

I do hope you are joking, you sad bastard.

Tut TuT STO, such bad language, but I have no need to lie, tis only the the old Flatulence like yourself that watch Strictly.  So surely the viewing figures cant be wrong.



Edit :- of all the words to be filterd, The one above gets through and F a r t fails???   ah well.

[albitz]

Just ban both of them on the grounds of being absolute sh1te - lowest common denominator tv,save all the hassle.I ask you blokes dancing ffs,cant get much more gay than that  can it.

[tunnie]

not a problem for me, i find both shows a load of crap.

[Martin_1962]

not a problem for me, i find both shows a load of crap.

Sue likes them - I play Doom3

However there are some good outfits on SCD - definately NOT gay





Sorry no bum shots found it was skin tight