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[feeutfo]

did you see the bounce it took when holland gave the ball back to spain to allow treatment - kudos to the dutch for just passing the ball to the keeper from the resulting corner 

alarm bells started with the ball when green let it in against the usa, then all through the tournament there were bizarre keeping errors, shots moving oddly, terrible free kicks (Japan seemed the only side with a clue). Its a financial decision - i think they should have left it at the iconic Adidas Tango from '78 and '82  they still fetch over £100 on e-bay   

Watching the way it dips and moves about, its like playing with a cheap kids plastic ball.

Maybe all part of FIFA's attempt to make the top flight game to use same equipment as kids that toe-poe the balls in the local park  .

Any golfers on here may well know, if you find a worn out golf ball in your bucket at the driving range and leather that out there it will dart around in a totally random manner, completely uncontrollable. Even with a generous slice in your swing.  it may not turn as you might think.

As TB says, they've taken all the detail of the ball surface so the air has far less affect on holding the balls trajectory. Its a total lottery as to weather the ball goes as placed, or where the keeper thinks it will be when gets to him. Random football, and I suspect the lack of weight to it is why Tores and Rooney among others had such an appalling world cup. The ball just bounced of them, seems to me anyway.

[TheBoy]

Rooney had a bad world cup because:

a) he is a useless, lazy player

b) he can get away with above at Man U due to a fantastic midfield, but England was a collection of good players, not a good team...

[feeutfo]

Rooney had a bad world cup because:

a) he is a useless, lazy player

b) he can get away with above at Man U due to a fantastic midfield, but England was a collection of good players, not a good team...

Doesn't think much of Villa supporters either. (snigger)
And Tores? However it's spelt?

[TheBoy]

The ball has had an impact, but that useless idiot Rooney cannot use that as an excuse for being a useless idiot

[feeutfo]

The ball has had an impact, but that useless thingy Rooney cannot use that as an excuse for being a useless thingy

It was Villa's fault, the booers 

[Mysteryman]

Rooney had a bad world cup because:

a) he is a useless, lazy player

b) he can get away with above at Man U due to a fantastic midfield, but England was a collection of good players, not a good team...

Doesn't think much of Villa supporters either. (snigger)
And Tores? However it's spelt?

Everyone at Liverpool is praying Torres will stay. I would let him go while we can still get good money (£35 million, reputedly) for him.

[feeutfo]

Rooney had a bad world cup because:

a) he is a useless, lazy player

b) he can get away with above at Man U due to a fantastic midfield, but England was a collection of good players, not a good team...

Doesn't think much of Villa supporters either. (snigger)
And Tores? However it's spelt?

Everyone at Liverpool is praying Torres will stay. I would let him go while we can still get good money (£35 million, reputedly) for him.

Is that before or after his wc performance?

[jonnycool]

Rooney had a bad world cup because:

a) he is a useless, lazy player

b) he can get away with above at Man U due to a fantastic midfield, but England was a collection of good players, not a good team...

Doesn't think much of Villa supporters either. (snigger)
And Tores? However it's spelt?

Everyone at Liverpool is praying Torres will stay. I would let him go while we can still get good money (£35 million, reputedly) for him.

Is that before or after his wc performance?

He's a fantastic player, hope he doesn't turn into an injury-prone crock like Michael Owen, looks like they rushed him into service  for the final

[tunnie]

Rooney had a bad world cup because:

a) he is a useless, lazy player

b) he can get away with above at Man U due to a fantastic midfield, but England was a collection of good players, not a good team...

Doesn't think much of Villa supporters either. (snigger)
And Tores? However it's spelt?

Everyone at Liverpool is praying Torres will stay. I would let him go while we can still get good money (£35 million, reputedly) for him.

Is that before or after his wc performance?

He's a fantastic player, hope he doesn't turn into an injury-prone crock like Michael Owen, looks like they rushed him into service  for the final

rubbish!

[jonnycool]

Rooney had a bad world cup because:

a) he is a useless, lazy player

b) he can get away with above at Man U due to a fantastic midfield, but England was a collection of good players, not a good team...

Doesn't think much of Villa supporters either. (snigger)
And Tores? However it's spelt?

Everyone at Liverpool is praying Torres will stay. I would let him go while we can still get good money (£35 million, reputedly) for him.

Is that before or after his wc performance?

He's a fantastic player, hope he doesn't turn into an injury-prone crock like Michael Owen, looks like they rushed him into service  for the final

rubbish!

Eh? Have you actually watched any Premiership football last season? ( I'm not a Liverpool fan by the way)

He ain't rubbish by any stretch of the imagination 

[tunnie]

Rooney had a bad world cup because:

a) he is a useless, lazy player

b) he can get away with above at Man U due to a fantastic midfield, but England was a collection of good players, not a good team...

Doesn't think much of Villa supporters either. (snigger)
And Tores? However it's spelt?

Everyone at Liverpool is praying Torres will stay. I would let him go while we can still get good money (£35 million, reputedly) for him.

Is that before or after his wc performance?

He's a fantastic player, hope he doesn't turn into an injury-prone crock like Michael Owen, looks like they rushed him into service  for the final

rubbish!

Eh? Have you actually watched any Premiership football last season? ( I'm not a Liverpool fan by the way)

He ain't rubbish by any stretch of the imagination 

Did you watch any of the word cup?

Rest of the team was a shambles, but when he did have the ball he was pathetic!

He never chased ball with any enthusiasm, when he did finally catch up, he managed to loose possession in matter of seconds.

He's another over-paid talentless runt, what he gets paid in a day a British Soldier gets paid in a year. 

The amount he gets paid he could have put some feking effort in 

[jonnycool]

Rooney had a bad world cup because:

a) he is a useless, lazy player

b) he can get away with above at Man U due to a fantastic midfield, but England was a collection of good players, not a good team...

Doesn't think much of Villa supporters either. (snigger)
And Tores? However it's spelt?

Everyone at Liverpool is praying Torres will stay. I would let him go while we can still get good money (£35 million, reputedly) for him.

Is that before or after his wc performance?

He's a fantastic player, hope he doesn't turn into an injury-prone crock like Michael Owen, looks like they rushed him into service  for the final

rubbish!

Eh? Have you actually watched any Premiership football last season? ( I'm not a Liverpool fan by the way)

He ain't rubbish by any stretch of the imagination 

Did you watch any of the word cup?

Rest of the team was a shambles, but when he did have the ball he was pathetic!

He never chased ball with any enthusiasm, when he did finally catch up, he managed to loose possession in matter of seconds.

He's another over-paid talentless runt, what he gets paid in a day a British Soldier gets paid in a year. 

The amount he gets paid he could have put some feking effort in 

I grant you that in the world cup he was useless, what we saw was a pale shadow of what he's capable of, very disappointing I know. It was plainly obvious that he was nowhere near full fitness, as proved when he pulled up with an injury in the final.
    All Premiership players are overpaid, but in my opinion Torres is one of the few who still has his feet on the ground. He married his girlfriend a little while back with no fanfair or Hello mag million-pound deal, and had no interest in doing so. Anyone will tell you that he's a quality player, no matter what you saw during the world cup