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Re: Tearing my hair out with this one! Long post!
« Reply #30 on: 15 February 2008, 11:32:15 »

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Do you set the camber dependent on ride height?

Kind of.... What i do is measure the static camber position then pull the car down to measure the dynamic gains. This is also done with the front wheels at a 10 degree lock to test the camber/ castor relationship during weight transfer.

Over the years i have concluded a camber table and the variants are surprisingly small... As some may know i am opening a new centre soon and the new machine offers much more information.... Once i have proved my findings on that then i will release the data to the club.
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Re: Tearing my hair out with this one! Long post!
« Reply #31 on: 15 February 2008, 11:35:21 »

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Hi again Wheels in Motion. The firm I took the car to did the alignment check, corrected the front toe and wouldn't do the other work. They said had to correct it myself and then take the car back and have it checked again. If I had known this in the first place I wouldn't have taken it there. So the camber was set by someone else to same as the other side using a camber gauge. I haven't taken the car back to the original shop to pay another forty quid just for a readout.
 I rang a company who advertise on the Align Your Car website which is an hours drive away from me. The receptionist who answered the phone was very rude and unhelpful. They wouldn't let me book the car in for an alignment without me first driving the car to them so their engineers could look at it first, then they would assess whether they could do it or not. i would then have to book the car in and take it back another time for them to do it, presuming of course they wanted to do the job anyway.
 I am currently looking for an alignment shop that will do what they advertise and actually align my car. If you weren't so far away I would use yourselves without hesitation. Nobody around here is interested in doing the job. I also rang another company who said 'sorry mate we don't do Omegas'.  Unbelievable.
 

Their talking "pants"..... PM me your contact number so i can get your details and i will contact them for you!!
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Re: Tearing my hair out with this one! Long post!
« Reply #32 on: 15 February 2008, 13:31:21 »

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Hi again Wheels in Motion. The firm I took the car to did the alignment check, corrected the front toe and wouldn't do the other work. They said had to correct it myself and then take the car back and have it checked again. If I had known this in the first place I wouldn't have taken it there. So the camber was set by someone else to same as the other side using a camber gauge. I haven't taken the car back to the original shop to pay another forty quid just for a readout.
 I rang a company who advertise on the Align Your Car website which is an hours drive away from me. The receptionist who answered the phone was very rude and unhelpful. They wouldn't let me book the car in for an alignment without me first driving the car to them so their engineers could look at it first, then they would assess whether they could do it or not. i would then have to book the car in and take it back another time for them to do it, presuming of course they wanted to do the job anyway.
 I am currently looking for an alignment shop that will do what they advertise and actually align my car. If you weren't so far away I would use yourselves without hesitation. Nobody around here is interested in doing the job. I also rang another company who said 'sorry mate we don't do Omegas'.  Unbelievable.
 

Their talking "pants"..... PM me your contact number so i can get your details and i will contact them for you!!

I have had this kind of response before with the Westfield. Some centres can only be bothered to adjust the track arms. >:(

Which reminds me... I need to get that WIM'ed when the new centre is open. :y

Kevin
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Re: Tearing my hair out with this one! Long post!
« Reply #33 on: 15 February 2008, 15:56:15 »

O.K, todays update is this.
Fitted better quality wishbones (QH) which stopped the wobbling but still had severe tramlining.
Went to the alignment shop with my original readout and told them to correct what they should have done in the first place. They reluctantly agreed and spent two hours this morning putting all the pointers into the green. They now say every setting is correct and the printout looks good to me. I am happy with that. Car drives much better........but it still tramlines quite severely. I can't put up with this any longer, the roads around here are bad. No other car that I have owned or driven had been as bad as this one.
  I have blown the best part of 600quid trying to sort this one problem out and several more quids fixing other problems that seem to afflict all Omegas, it's time to get rid I think. I'm sick to the back teeth of the bloody thing, you get one problem fixed and another one appears, if it was nice to drive I wouldn't mind so much but it isn't.
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Re: Tearing my hair out with this one! Long post!
« Reply #34 on: 15 February 2008, 16:19:29 »

Badger, i know that WIM are a long way from you and that time is of a essance to all of us  but had you taken it to WIM at the start then you could have saved yourself a small fortune, 1-28 camber is still too far out of range to my thinking and just because they say they are all in the green as to settings does not mean that they are correct. I strongly reccomend that IF you can make it to WIM you will not be dissapointed, tony knows his stuff mate. he set mine up and i run p7's and suffer from a small amount of tramling but nothing compared to what it was like before tony got his hands on it.   By the way i had primacy's on it when i got it and it did not tramline at all .
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Re: Tearing my hair out with this one! Long post!
« Reply #35 on: 15 February 2008, 17:13:12 »

Hi mate, i have no doubt at all that WIM would be able to sort it out, I just don't fancy driving all that way with car behaving like this, it feels unsafe. I just don't get how a car can be so sensitive to a degree or two, never had this problem with any car.
 I'm chucking the Pirellis off tomorrow. It's the only sensible thing to do, car was fine on the elcheapo budget tyres, no tramlining at all but noisy on corners and what I thought was a harsh ride. The Pirellis are
even harsher and bloody noisy at high speed. I seem to be throwing money away trying to make the car drive good on the P7s when clearly they don't suit me or the car. Glad yours is o.k mate, some seem to like Pirellis, some don't.
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Re: Tearing my hair out with this one! Long post!
« Reply #36 on: 15 February 2008, 17:27:11 »

Mine tramlines and bump steers quite badly on some roads and it does seem to be a problem with some Omega's. It may be that I've got an underlying problem that I'm not yet aware of but I've spoken to Tony at WIM and he wants me to bring it in for another check as due to the non-standard wheels and tyres it might need a custom setup.

It wasn't too bad when the tyres were newly fitted (Falken FK452's) but seems to have got worse as they are wearing.

Wishbones did cross my mind but I'm sure my mechanic would have picked up on that during MOT or service. :-/
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