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Re: Diesel - Water Intake
« Reply #15 on: 07 September 2008, 21:52:42 »

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Re: Diesel - Water Intake
« Reply #16 on: 08 September 2008, 08:50:40 »

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Not sure if there's anything odd about the BMW TD engine, but other TD's i've disassembled have just required the pipe nuts slackening - 1/8 to 1/4 of a turn, then a gentle tap with the spanner which break the seal - but it will leak out, so a rag around the nut will help immensely.  Then slacken the other end.  Don't remove the pipes unless you have to for access to other things; just undo the pump end then try and swing them clear of the injectors.  Helps with reducing dirt ingress and remembering where they came from!

The pipes may contain upto 100 bar of pressure - but as there's not a lot of volume, it will dissipate quickly (hence rags).

Not sure about how deep the injectors are recessed in the head; whether or not you can get a ring spanner on them (might not get a socket on them due to the leakoff pipe stubs) - but you can get injector sockets (rather like lambda ones - splits up the sides) from any half decent tool shop - even Halfrauds!

to put it b;untly the injectors are rather tight and deeply recessed, unfortunately I Have managed to break 2 of TB cheap chinese injector sockets up to now!! I doubt if you wil get them out easily, go for glow plugs out and turn engine by hand but ihave a feeling engine will have bent conrods or similar/ depending on engine speed when it happened,
I have a theory with my 'incident' that when it hydrolocked, the autobox absorbed the shock at the low speed I was travelling at (10mph ish) which is why I suffered no damage to the engine so it is worth trying to salvage it.
I agree the glow-plugs will be easier to remove than the injectors in order to clear the water out. We turned it over using the starter motor...it was very very messy!
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Re: Diesel - Water Intake
« Reply #17 on: 08 September 2008, 22:13:01 »

Got the inlet manifold off today, broke an injector pipe in the process - pretty brittle things.  Glow plugs out and tried turning the engine over.  One big click from the starter motor - absolutely no movement whatsoever from the engine.

Seems like my Miggy ownership may be over - not sure what to do next.  I've seen (and driven) a manual 2.2 petrol estate, but just don't think it'll be right.  I do 100 miles a day and really need the economy of a diesel, and the auto box.  Not got a lot to spend either - and really am struggling to find anything to replace the present box on wheels.  Anyway - parts may be available soon - but not until I get some more wheels.

Back to work tomorrow - and having to use a Rover 214 to get there and back till I replace the miggy.  Not looking forward to the journeys each day, not one bit.

Thanks for all the advice  :y - if there's any more that might breathe life back into the beast then I'm all ears!
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Re: Diesel - Water Intake
« Reply #18 on: 08 September 2008, 22:22:51 »

I know nowt about diesels and fixing your problem .. hydrolocking is gonna do an engine no good whatsoever .. :(

However ... a couple of thoughts ... if you enjoy the Miggy so much, but need the economy due to high mileage, Diesel is NOT the only answer.

A petrol with LPG conversion will drop your running costs a lot, my 3.2, driven not gently .. is working out at 11 pence/mile cheaper than petrol !!! (14 p/m vs 25 p/m) ... a smaller engine driven gently would do even better, but the V6 is just so nice and on gas its relatively cheap.

There are a couple of variations .. buy a petrol and convert it, either DIY with OOF assistance .. around £800 or have it done ... around £2200. .... at 100 miles a week the payback time is a lot less than you might think !!   ... or buy a converted one, they pop up here or autotrader/fleabay occasionally .... I know danny is selling his quite cheaply due to a small problem .. might be worth considering with a view to fixing the problem ??

just giving a few options thats all .. I'm well pleased with running on LPG  :)
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Re: Diesel - Water Intake
« Reply #19 on: 08 September 2008, 22:35:09 »

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Got the inlet manifold off today, broke an injector pipe in the process - pretty brittle things.  Glow plugs out and tried turning the engine over.  One big click from the starter motor - absolutely no movement whatsoever from the engine.

Seems like my Miggy ownership may be over - not sure what to do next.  I've seen (and driven) a manual 2.2 petrol estate, but just don't think it'll be right.  I do 100 miles a day and really need the economy of a diesel, and the auto box.  Not got a lot to spend either - and really am struggling to find anything to replace the present box on wheels.  Anyway - parts may be available soon - but not until I get some more wheels.

Back to work tomorrow - and having to use a Rover 214 to get there and back till I replace the miggy.  Not looking forward to the journeys each day, not one bit.

Thanks for all the advice  :y - if there's any more that might breathe life back into the beast then I'm all ears!

put a socket on the crank pulley with a breaker bar oon it then try turning engine backwards, it may move!! if it does try then turning forwards!!! it wont be easy but its worth a try!!

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Re: Diesel - Water Intake
« Reply #20 on: 09 September 2008, 15:27:34 »

Yep, follow Omegatoy's post ......

Try turning the engine backwards first with a suitable socket/bar, spanner etc. See where you go from there, and watch for any water emerging from the glow-plug holes.

Did you see any water coming out of the glow-plug holes when you initially removed the plugs, or signs of rust-like corrosion on the plugs?
My own experiences have seen water really gush out when an engine's  hydraulically locked.

I'm also wondering whether the timing chain's broken and/or resulted in something jamming at the front-end of the engine - just a thought, although a possibility.  

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Re: Diesel - Water Intake
« Reply #21 on: 09 September 2008, 15:41:56 »

As others said, turn it over manually, not on the starter!
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Re: Diesel - Water Intake
« Reply #22 on: 09 September 2008, 19:53:06 »

That engine on ebay (in Shifnal, so not a million miles away from you) is still available...£200
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