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Author Topic: Camshaft and Crankshaft Sensors  (Read 2557 times)

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Re: Camshaft and Crankshaft Sensors
« Reply #15 on: 15 January 2008, 18:55:15 »

Notice how (old style) diesels dont have cam sensors for same reason - the ecu doesn't control the firing sequence for injectors (and obviously no ignition)
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Re: Camshaft and Crankshaft Sensors
« Reply #16 on: 15 January 2008, 19:59:08 »

Most old injection systems dont have cam sensors i.e. 3.5 and 3.9 Rover V8s, early, L-jetronic, most SPi setups....

As for the wasted spark, here is some more info for the melting pot.

You have two spark plugs firing at the same time but, they will not have an equal voltage across them......but why...

Well again its simple, the voltage required to create a spark across a given gap (i.e. a spark plug) is related to a number of factors and one of the important ones is pressure....

So, if you were to measure the voltage across the sapr plug you would find about 40KV across the one on the compression stroke and around 4KV across the one on the exhaust stroke.......and as some of you may ahev noticed this i a close correlation to the compression ratio and is indeed due to the fact that teh cylidner pressure at the top of the compression stroke is 10 times that of teh cylinder pressure on the exhaust stroke.

This works in your favour as you now only need a coil that is insulated slightly better thn a standard one rather than what some expect would need to be twice that of a standard one.  

As for the type of sensor used for cam and crank.....it does vary from system to system with reluctance being a common one but, hall sensors not being un-heard of.

The cam sensor on the 4 pot is actualy unusual as it has a sine wave of some few hundred KHz applied to it!
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Re: Camshaft and Crankshaft Sensors
« Reply #17 on: 15 January 2008, 20:04:17 »

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The cam sensor on the 4 pot is actualy unusual as it has a sine wave of some few hundred KHz applied to it!

I've noticed this. Is it still a variable reluctance sensor or some other type?

I'm guessing this is done to improve the low frequency reponse of the sensor over one with a "DC" magnet.

Kevin
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Re: Camshaft and Crankshaft Sensors
« Reply #18 on: 15 January 2008, 20:15:26 »

and this would explain the wiring mod in the Cavs that were the first vehicle to receive the Simtec 56.1 system with the 2.0 16V engine.

What was happening was that the cam sensor part of the loom was routed round by the alternator and this was not shielded correctly.  There were two mods as I recall, number 1 being to move the loom out of the way of the alternator and, mod 2 was the fit additional shielding.  My cav had option 2.
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Re: Camshaft and Crankshaft Sensors
« Reply #19 on: 16 January 2008, 08:43:10 »

Thanks for all the great answers guys. I now better understand what is going on under the bonnet, and a bit deeper, of my car.

Martin

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Re: Camshaft and Crankshaft Sensors
« Reply #20 on: 16 January 2008, 19:33:25 »

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Thanks for all the great answers guys. I now better understand what is going on under the bonnet, and a bit deeper, of my car.

Martin

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What are you turning into :-/
I have only been away for a few days  ;D ;D
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Re: Camshaft and Crankshaft Sensors
« Reply #21 on: 16 January 2008, 20:45:19 »

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Thanks for all the great answers guys. I now better understand what is going on under the bonnet, and a bit deeper, of my car.

Martin

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What are you turning into :-/
I have only been away for a few days  ;D ;D

Sorry, who are you????

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