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Re: General audio/Bose theory & questions
« Reply #15 on: 18 May 2010, 19:53:06 »

Was a hand me down from a relative, used a Rotel RP855 (with an AT110e cartridge) before which is a budget deck but still sounded good to my ears. One day i'll get everything set back up again properly and look at getting a better amp to do the deck some real justice.... think i'll wait until the children are a bit older though first though!
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Re: General audio/Bose theory & questions
« Reply #16 on: 19 May 2010, 09:53:23 »

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There's a few people on here who've probably researched the options to death to be honest. Basically we are dealing with a system thats getting on in years now and some of the options that can be taken are, at best, just a compromise.

For what it is I think the Bose system is a good option for those who want to upgrade their system in an Omega on a limited budget, however there are of course many better options out there with many more features but to do so involves a healthier budget.

Personally I prefer my Linn Sondek turntable to any MP3 player but as home hi-fi, by the nature of being seperates, will always be upgradeable without compromise (well not many compromises in comparison!) the same cannot be said for a siemens/phillips/gm 1998 glued together solution


Very nice. One of the things that got me into audio in the first place was a temporary job for Rega, around the time they started making speakers & amps, as well as turntables & stylii. Unfortunately you can't fit that in a car either!

It's not only GM, my Range Rover had Bose too, & had the car been more reliable than than a politicians promises, I would have been going down this route a few years ago instead of getting rid before I needed a 2nd mortgage for repairs- or fuel for that matter, 14mpg @ £1.20 a litre is just obscene!!

To be fair to Bose they, Harmon Kardon & a few others made car manufacturers realise that the're own brands of audio were poor to say the least (my first car had a radio & 1 mono driver in the middle of the dash!), which is why so many people have made a good living out of retro fitting HU's or complete upgrades, and the competition market is worth a few quid worldwide to say the least. Well respected audio manufacturers such as JBL have a large car interest, even though it accounts for only about 4% of their global speaker/amp production.

At the time VX, Land Rover & other high-end car makers realised their was money to be made from offering better audio options on their cars, and Bose wasn't a bad place to go for this. This was over 15 years ago in the case of Range Rover, and no, virtually anything factory fitted is never gonna come close to what can be achieved by people like Dave @ DND who clearly has an extensive knowledge, but for those of us that want discrete equipment, that doesn't scream "please break my window & steal me", require double glazing to keep the SPL in, or a complete re-wire the Bose is more than adequate.

Martin is absolutely right, these things can all be acheived (as can anything given enough money), I'm merely using what I've learned from many years in audio to attempt to give those like myself who are happy with the sound produced by the system, but who want to change the HU (or replace in the case of a dead one), without having to take the large budget option

As i said earlier, surely it would be better to be able to offer a £200 solution for a HU & interface than, letting a potential customer walk away because they can't afford the £600+ completely new system?
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Re: General audio/Bose theory & questions
« Reply #17 on: 19 May 2010, 09:56:30 »

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think i'll wait until the children are a bit older though first though!
 

There's nothing like a 2 year old poking the dust cap on a £700 pair of speakers....... wish I'd waited a bit longer before I bought mine.
This being the same child that caused me to strip my VHS player to remove a jam sandwich.

Gotta love kids...... :-/


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Re: General audio/Bose theory & questions
« Reply #18 on: 19 May 2010, 10:39:53 »

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but for those of us that want discrete equipment, that doesn't scream "please break my window & steal me", require double glazing to keep the SPL in, or a complete re-wire the Bose is more than adequate.


Exactly why I fitted line level outputs to my CCR2006. http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1174515451. Ok, solves the opposite problem, I know.

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As i said earlier, surely it would be better to be able to offer a £200 solution for a HU & interface than, letting a potential customer walk away because they can't afford the £600+ completely new system?

Yep. Only solution otherwise to improve anything on the Bose setup is to rip out HU, amp, speakers and start again due to the non standard amp input and 2 ophm speakers. Doesn't need to be that expensive but will cost more than a HU change and be MUCH more hassle. More hassle than I'd go to were I in that position, TBH.

It would be trivial to knock up an interface to drive a Bose amp from speaker or line level outputs on an aftermarket HU and it would only cost a few quid, at a guess.

Something I would have resolved if my car had Bose. ;)

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Re: General audio/Bose theory & questions
« Reply #19 on: 19 May 2010, 10:51:31 »

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Exactly why I fitted line level outputs to my CCR2006. http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1174515451. Ok, solves the opposite problem, I know.

I read that, a simple mod if you can solder, and good instructions too


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It would be trivial to knock up an interface to drive a Bose amp from speaker or line level outputs on an aftermarket HU and it would only cost a few quid, at a guess.

That is exactly my point, as and when I get my 'scope back, that's where I'm headed with my Bose-programmed HU
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