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Omega32E

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Tragic
« on: 10 December 2011, 17:35:13 »


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8946652/Melton-Mowbray-Police-inspector-killed-wife-and-daughter-after-being-sacked.html

First thing is this is very tragic and I do feel truly sorry for the two remaining kids and there family.

It seems that his wife was having an affair and the guy used the police national computer for his personal use to try and trace the "offender"
Apparently his wife found out about the mis use and reported him which eventually led to him getting the tin tack.

This is yet another blow for the powers that be that try to convince us that these databases are no threat/problem and will be used and operated in the correct manner for the correct purposes, clearly this is not the case when a serving Inspector of 16 years decides he is above the law and access whatever information he needs for his own personal use and then when found out as a result of his own wife reporting him the Leicestershire Police Force tried to hush it up.
The second point to this is that given the laws we have in this country to many people are left defenseless with nothing more than a phone to protect themselves, we are told we cannot act we must call the law and they will deal with any given situation therefore we do not need to have any sort of self defense, clearly this does not work either, a simple can of pepper spray might have been enough to stop this whole episode.
Being totally reliant on the Police for self protection more so within your own home has not and does not work, it now seems that you can be living with a serving Police officer and still end up dead. Lay down and roll over and hope luck is on your side cause in the real world where most of us live that all you really have.
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Re: Tragic
« Reply #1 on: 10 December 2011, 18:03:48 »

Yes, there's a lot I agree with there 32 - but I'll have to come back to this as I'm away to make me tea/dinner whatever's appropriate.
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Re: Tragic
« Reply #2 on: 10 December 2011, 20:51:25 »

Thinking about this I'm disappointed at the way things have turned out. 

Having had 39 years service I know all too well that there are many sides to each story, much evidence to be considered before reaching a conclusion and that it’s of the utmost importance to believe that the system of justice, and how its administered, is being done so for the integrity of the law and the benefit of our citizens.

Yet my faith in the foregoing has been shaken by many instances of such excess, such manipulation and such dereliction of duty.  As far as I see things, policing at the moment is being performed every bit as much for the benefit of the political agenda, budgetary considerations and trendy nostrums than for the grass roots reasons of upholding the law and protecting life and property.

Many in authority (not just the police) have abused their positions had have sought to further their interests by manipulating the very system they seek to uphold; this is unforgivable in my view,

The amount of information held on people (supposedly in secure circumstances and for very specific reasons) makes the temptation for some to use it for purposes beyond those which are legal a very real worry as the amount of damage this can do to a persons circumstances is sometimes quite substantial.

Similarly, when it comes to the expectation many people quite rightly have that they will be protected by the forces of law and order, it’s also sad to see how that expectation is regularly diminished as a result of what seems to be an interpretation of the law that favours those wrongdoers rather than their victims.  Such imbalance hardly inspires confidence in a system that has grown far beyond that which is healthy.

In short, there’s too much theory, too much notional activity based on what is considered to be good for the system, (as its viewed by Chief Officers, ACPO and the Home Office) fall within the budget and is judged to be the minimum amount necessary to get a job done and not enough hands-on practical activity performed with the intention of upholding the law and properly protecting our people.   
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Re: Tragic
« Reply #3 on: 11 December 2011, 00:50:59 »

First of all a very well written piece DD :y
I have worked within the Nottingham "nightlife scene" for over 20 years the rules and laws passed do nothing to curb criminal activity they have only served to make the law abiding folk more defenseless and more prone to incident, the Police are unable to protect the majority of people the majority of the time regardless of how high and mighty they think they have become. The law banning guns has done nothing to reduce the amount of weapons within criminal hands in fact just the reverse all it has done is to increase the value and therefore the availability of weapons available. Anyone within the "know" can pick up a automatic weapon for anywhere between 500 - 1000 without problem. An englishman castle is his home and he should have the right to defend it at all costs using whatever methods are available without question. The way it stands now the law has just made the defenseless more defenseless with the argument that the Police are here to defend you so you dont need any means of defending yourselfs, clearly this is a promise they cannot uphold. The same argument stands with all the cameras again they do little/nothing to curb serious criminal activity, ANPR cameras as worthless when all the crook has to do is clone the plates from a legal motor and the whole system is defeated. The only real purpose they serve is to levy fines onto "joe public" we are just fed the criminal bullshit as a way of acceptence. As it is now I am utterly and totally fed up with all the crap I am fed that all these monitoring systems are for my own good. If it ever came to the point I would defend my home and family without mercy or regard for plod and the bo**ocks he preaches. I work away alot and below is Kane, he has been taught to protect his home and family at all costs and I dont give a *hit what the do gooders say regarding animals like him or why they are kept he is there to do a job, a job that clearly nobody else despite the promises are capable of.



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Re: Tragic
« Reply #4 on: 11 December 2011, 05:31:24 »

I totally agree with you Omega32E, I will defend my home & my family no matter what. I've done it once before!  I caught a guy in my back garden at 1 in the morning, trying to nick my motorbike. Needless to say that after I dragged him into the street, SWMBO called the police. He then started to have a go at me, 30 secs in a head lock and he was sleeping like a baby by my front door ready to be collected!! :y

Minimum force...family safe, property intact, lowlife sleeping ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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