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Windows help (again) File Restoring
« on: 21 March 2012, 17:32:23 »

oops, Did a series of back ups from a couple of PC's to an external hard drive (USB)

1st back up was with my main PC on XP Pro and included loads of office work, then the day after I added all the pictures and photo's from various directories, then nipped on the external drive and did a bit of tiding and renaming etc.

2nd back up I dumped 2 large directories from my laptop that is running vista, just dumped the folders in the root of the external drive as they were named as I wanted them, then powered down thinking no more of it.

Imagine the horror when I discoverded I had no access to the photo's from the XP back up.  Didnt panic, turned it all off, Dug an old PC that I thought had XP on and found the drive to be unusable, I had put my windows XP on it but never activated it (Been using a different PC ever since with a bigger hard drive in it)  Started from scratch and finally put windows 7 on that I bought a while ago.

All software installed, after having a nosey round windows 7 I plugged the external drive in to find that win7 found it to have errors on it, looking good so far it seemed to recover the folders and hopefully all the lost files.  So I have spent most of the day moving the files off the external drive (ED) but found the to be loads of files and pics still missing.    Found an empty directory to delete, but as I clicked delete it started to dump 153GB of files so it got cancelled (Quickly)


Questions are?

Why would I lose the 1st downloads using XP when the 2nd download was done using Vista.

Are the formats different in any way from XP, Vista and windows 7 (Ultimate)

Plus, why (where) is there no search option on win 7 on the right click option, (or have they changed it to some where else)

T.I.A.   :y
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Re: Windows help (again) File Restoring
« Reply #1 on: 21 March 2012, 18:01:04 »

oops, Did a series of back ups from a couple of PC's to an external hard drive (USB)

1st back up was with my main PC on XP Pro and included loads of office work, then the day after I added all the pictures and photo's from various directories, then nipped on the external drive and did a bit of tiding and renaming etc.

2nd back up I dumped 2 large directories from my laptop that is running vista, just dumped the folders in the root of the external drive as they were named as I wanted them, then powered down thinking no more of it.

Imagine the horror when I discoverded I had no access to the photo's from the XP
back up
.  Didnt panic, turned it all off, Dug an old PC that I thought had XP on and found the drive to be unusable, I had put my windows XP on it but never activated it (Been using a different PC ever since with a bigger hard drive in it)  Started from scratch and finally put windows 7 on that I bought a while ago.

All software installed, after having a nosey round windows 7 I plugged the external drive in to find that win7 found it to have errors on it, looking good so far it seemed to recover the folders and hopefully all the lost files.  So I have spent most of the day moving the files off the external drive (ED) but found the to be loads of files and pics still missing.    Found an empty directory to delete, but as I clicked delete it started to dump 153GB of files so it got cancelled (Quickly)


Questions are?

Why would I lose the 1st downloads using XP when the 2nd download was done using Vista.

Are the formats different in any way from XP, Vista and windows 7 (Ultimate)

Plus, why (where) is there no search option on win 7 on the right click option, (or have they changed it to some where else)

T.I.A.   :y

I can imagine Skrunts. Years and years worth of pornography....gone! ;D
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Re: Windows help (again) File Restoring
« Reply #2 on: 21 March 2012, 19:00:26 »

oops, Did a series of back ups from a couple of PC's to an external hard drive (USB)

1st back up was with my main PC on XP Pro and included loads of office work, then the day after I added all the pictures and photo's from various directories, then nipped on the external drive and did a bit of tiding and renaming etc.

2nd back up I dumped 2 large directories from my laptop that is running vista, just dumped the folders in the root of the external drive as they were named as I wanted them, then powered down thinking no more of it.

Imagine the horror when I discoverded I had no access to the photo's from the XP back up.  Didnt panic, turned it all off, Dug an old PC that I thought had XP on and found the drive to be unusable, I had put my windows XP on it but never activated it (Been using a different PC ever since with a bigger hard drive in it)  Started from scratch and finally put windows 7 on that I bought a while ago.

All software installed, after having a nosey round windows 7 I plugged the external drive in to find that win7 found it to have errors on it, looking good so far it seemed to recover the folders and hopefully all the lost files.  So I have spent most of the day moving the files off the external drive (ED) but found the to be loads of files and pics still missing.    Found an empty directory to delete, but as I clicked delete it started to dump 153GB of files so it got cancelled (Quickly)


Questions are?

Why would I lose the 1st downloads using XP when the 2nd download was done using Vista.

Are the formats different in any way from XP, Vista and windows 7 (Ultimate)

Plus, why (where) is there no search option on win 7 on the right click option, (or have they changed it to some where else)

T.I.A.   :y

nope.. must not be !   once initialized (formatted) by any system , all other op.systems must use the same structure without changing it..
 
but I guess file allocation table and cluster chains partially donald :(
 
are you sure you properly stopped usb disk after every file transfer (also this could have happened from before but today become visible as you move large sizes)?  imo, dont trust this disk until you reformat it (not quick) and copy files again.. :-\
 
 ps: there are 2 copies of File allocation table so you had success to recover some of it..
 
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Re: Windows help (again) File Restoring
« Reply #3 on: 21 March 2012, 19:17:09 »

oops, Did a series of back ups from a couple of PC's to an external hard drive (USB)

1st back up was with my main PC on XP Pro and included loads of office work, then the day after I added all the pictures and photo's from various directories, then nipped on the external drive and did a bit of tiding and renaming etc.

2nd back up I dumped 2 large directories from my laptop that is running vista, just dumped the folders in the root of the external drive as they were named as I wanted them, then powered down thinking no more of it.

Imagine the horror when I discoverded I had no access to the photo's from the XP back up.  Didnt panic, turned it all off, Dug an old PC that I thought had XP on and found the drive to be unusable, I had put my windows XP on it but never activated it (Been using a different PC ever since with a bigger hard drive in it)  Started from scratch and finally put windows 7 on that I bought a while ago.

All software installed, after having a nosey round windows 7 I plugged the external drive in to find that win7 found it to have errors on it, looking good so far it seemed to recover the folders and hopefully all the lost files.  So I have spent most of the day moving the files off the external drive (ED) but found the to be loads of files and pics still missing.    Found an empty directory to delete, but as I clicked delete it started to dump 153GB of files so it got cancelled (Quickly)


Questions are?

Why would I lose the 1st downloads using XP when the 2nd download was done using Vista.

Are the formats different in any way from XP, Vista and windows 7 (Ultimate)

Plus, why (where) is there no search option on win 7 on the right click option, (or have they changed it to some where else)

T.I.A.   :y

Top right corner of screen in windows explorer, I think. It will search the folder / drive you have already selected on the pane on the left.
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Re: Windows help (again) File Restoring
« Reply #4 on: 21 March 2012, 19:38:19 »

oops, Did a series of back ups from a couple of PC's to an external hard drive (USB)

1st back up was with my main PC on XP Pro and included loads of office work, then the day after I added all the pictures and photo's from various directories, then nipped on the external drive and did a bit of tiding and renaming etc.

2nd back up I dumped 2 large directories from my laptop that is running vista, just dumped the folders in the root of the external drive as they were named as I wanted them, then powered down thinking no more of it.

Imagine the horror when I discoverded I had no access to the photo's from the XP back up.  Didnt panic, turned it all off, Dug an old PC that I thought had XP on and found the drive to be unusable, I had put my windows XP on it but never activated it (Been using a different PC ever since with a bigger hard drive in it)  Started from scratch and finally put windows 7 on that I bought a while ago.

All software installed, after having a nosey round windows 7 I plugged the external drive in to find that win7 found it to have errors on it, looking good so far it seemed to recover the folders and hopefully all the lost files.  So I have spent most of the day moving the files off the external drive (ED) but found the to be loads of files and pics still missing.    Found an empty directory to delete, but as I clicked delete it started to dump 153GB of files so it got cancelled (Quickly)


Questions are?

Why would I lose the 1st downloads using XP when the 2nd download was done using Vista.

Are the formats different in any way from XP, Vista and windows 7 (Ultimate)

Plus, why (where) is there no search option on win 7 on the right click option, (or have they changed it to some where else)

T.I.A.   :y

nope.. must not be !   once initialized (formatted) by any system , all other op.systems must use the same structure without changing it..
 
but I guess file allocation table and cluster chains partially donald :(
 
are you sure you properly stopped usb disk after every file transfer (also this could have happened from before but today become visible as you move large sizes)?  imo, dont trust this disk until you reformat it (not quick) and copy files again.. :-\
 
 ps: there are 2 copies of File allocation table so you had success to recover some of it..
On if using FAT or FAT32 (or other FAT based). If NTFS, thats a semi journaled filesystem, so should be able to recover errors, assuming device not pulled halfway through writing MFT
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Re: Windows help (again) File Restoring
« Reply #5 on: 22 March 2012, 09:39:29 »

STOM123    like your thinking.  :-[ ::) :-X

OOMV6       checked all individual folders and sub folders manually and in explore mode

cem           allways wait for drives to finnish before switch off.  The srive is a Samsung story 2TB and has a light that idicates activity by light up the undernath of the caddy

Jamie         as far as i am aware I only ever use NTFS but never chacked what/how the the ED is formatted.  As a matter of interest what is the best format to use?

End result was I switched on the folder options to show hidden files and folders, found a lot of interesting pictures I had taken and then realised I had hidden them for a reason.  Plus some internet pics (including one that TB nearly dropped his laptop in the bath whilt viewing it)

Thanks for all the advice. :y
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Re: Windows help (again) File Restoring
« Reply #6 on: 22 March 2012, 11:18:49 »

Wouldn't recommend hiding folders on remote drives, been there, done that, should be ok if being used on the same machine all the time, but using the drive on other machines with different OS or permissions can lead to problems with the hidden files or folders being corrupted or partially written over.
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Re: Windows help (again) File Restoring
« Reply #7 on: 23 March 2012, 05:57:47 »

That may well have been the problem, they were copied to the remote drive after they had been hidden and i had forgotten they were there.

Ah well, we live and learn.  ::)
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