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[Webby the Bear]

I had to reuse the old pins. The ones that came with the pads were too short.

because not everyone knows that later 2/6 & 3.2 cars have vented rear discs ..... the short pins are long enough for the older solid discs 

Eurocarparts sell two different pins.... tell them if youve got vented or non-vented and theyll supply the correct pins seperately 

but there are also some garage mechs that have fitted solid discs to the back of a car that should have vented ...... all OK to start with until the pads wear & one of the pistons makes a bid for freedom from the caliper. Result is brake fluid everywhere & no brakes.

sorry andy. all i meant was if you needed replacememt pins (cos your ones were nackered) you can get the correct replacements from ECP 

[Andy B]

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sorry andy. all i meant was if you needed replacememt pins (cos your ones were nackered) you can get the correct replacements from ECP 

No Webby .... it was my fault! I was going off on a tangent. 

Rear pins last forever ...... I don't think I've ever needed to replace mine.  I've replaced the anti-rattle clip though.

[Webby the Bear]

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sorry andy. all i meant was if you needed replacememt pins (cos your ones were nackered) you can get the correct replacements from ECP 

No Webby .... it was my fault! I was going off on a tangent. 

Rear pins last forever ...... I don't think I've ever needed to replace mine.  I've replaced the anti-rattle clip though.

 

exactly the same mate.... the pins clean up real nice.... the anti-rattle clip though dissintergrated in my hand as i was cleaning it up 

[Andy B]

..... the anti-rattle clip though dissintergrated in my hand as i was cleaning it up 

Ooops! 

[Nick W]

If your just changing the pads them there is no need to open the blead nipple to push the piston back, and unless your planning to bleed the rear brakes then leave well alone,

You increase the risk of seal damage or inversion in the master cylinder.

Exactly. You increase it from "I never even considered it" to "vaguely plausible".
I've never bothered, or know anyone else who has. I dislike the idea of crushing a rubber hose(even though I was given the specific tool some time ago) far more than worry about the seals in the M/C.

[Andy H]

Personally I really don't feel comfortable with the idea of crushing my flexible brake hoses with pliers

Why bother? Attach a bleed hose to the bleed nipple, open the bleed nipple & gently press the pistons back then close the bleed nipple. Job done, caliper purged of old fluid & no damage done to flexible hoses 

[Andy B]

Personally I really don't feel comfortable with the idea of crushing my flexible brake hoses with pliers

Why bother? Attach a bleed hose to the bleed nipple, open the bleed nipple & gently press the pistons back then close the bleed nipple. Job done, caliper purged of old fluid & no damage done to flexible hoses 

There are times though that you need to remove a caliper & you need to prevent the brake fluid from draining out of the system and IIRC someone from the forum then had the job of having the system bled with the aid of something to modulate the ABS pump - you'll not successfully do it without if the system is fully drained, and it will if you leave the flexi pipe disconnected.

[Andy H]

Personally I really don't feel comfortable with the idea of crushing my flexible brake hoses with pliers

Why bother? Attach a bleed hose to the bleed nipple, open the bleed nipple & gently press the pistons back then close the bleed nipple. Job done, caliper purged of old fluid & no damage done to flexible hoses 

There are times though that you need to remove a caliper & you need to prevent the brake fluid from draining out of the system and IIRC someone from the forum then had the job of having the system bled with the aid of something to modulate the ABS pump - you'll not successfully do it without if the system is fully drained, and it will if you leave the flexi pipe disconnected.

Fair comment.
I have got some short lengths of brake pipe that I have soldered up so I can screw them into/onto the end of a flexi hose to stop that happening.

[Andy B]

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Fair comment.
I have got some short lengths of brake pipe that I have soldered up so I can screw them into/onto the end of a flexi hose to stop that happening.
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So you won't need to use a brake hose clamp 

[dbug]

Personally I really don't feel comfortable with the idea of crushing my flexible brake hoses with pliers

Why bother? Attach a bleed hose to the bleed nipple, open the bleed nipple & gently press the pistons back then close the bleed nipple. Job done, caliper purged of old fluid & no damage done to flexible hoses 

There are times though that you need to remove a caliper & you need to prevent the brake fluid from draining out of the system and IIRC someone from the forum then had the job of having the system bled with the aid of something to modulate the ABS pump - you'll not successfully do it without if the system is fully drained, and it will if you leave the flexi pipe disconnected.

Fair comment.
I have got some short lengths of brake pipe that I have soldered up so I can screw them into/onto the end of a flexi hose to stop that happening.

Likewise, have been using them for years

[robson]

I hate the thought of clamping hoses I am not sure but are the brake hoses reinforced and does clamping damage the reinforcement. I wonder what these tyre fitters do to our braking systems we probably wouldnt like to know.

[Webby the Bear]

I hate the thought of clamping hoses I am not sure but are the brake hoses reinforced and does clamping damage the reinforcement. I wonder what these tyre fitters do to our braking systems we probably wouldnt like to know.

whether they're reinforced or not i have no idea. but i can say that i dont squeeze the crap out of them... just enough to ensure all the flow goes the other way out of the bleeder  as per my pic before i also use two pieces of fuel line to protect my hose... gotta protect ya hose 

[robson]

I forgot to add to my post that there is always the chance of breaking off the bleed nipple but I am probably thinking back to the days when bleed nipples were quite small and I can remember some snapping. A little plus gas would not hurt.

[Seth]

You increase the risk of seal damage or inversion in the master cylinder.

^^^^ What TB says ^^^^

[Kevin Wood]

I forgot to add to my post that there is always the chance of breaking off the bleed nipple but I am probably thinking back to the days when bleed nipples were quite small and I can remember some snapping. A little plus gas would not hurt.

No, you're quite right. There's still plenty of opportunity to break off a nipple.

Actually, loosening them every time you wind back the piston will help prevent them seizing.

FWIW, I don't bother clamping the hose. With the bleed nipple open there is much less resistance to flow out of the nipple compared with up into the reservoir through the master cylinder so I doubt any old fluid gets pushed back into the system.