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[tunnie]

Anyone know of a hotspot app that allows you to tether WiFi to WiFi? Not WiFi to 3G?

On both iOS & Android, it appears when you enable a hotspot, data traffic must be routed over 3G. If I attempt to enable WiFi afterwards from the device, it drops connected users.

I'd like the device (either iOS or Android) to use it's WiFi connection for the data connection as well as connected users, I need this because I'd like to proxy the traffic through my PC, then capture it with something like Charles.

[Kevin Wood]

I'm guessing the device's Wi-Fi interface can operate as an access point or a client, but not both simultaneously. Can't you use an access point connected to your PC to achieve what you need?

[tunnie]

I'm guessing the device's Wi-Fi interface can operate as an access point or a client, but not both simultaneously. Can't you use an access point connected to your PC to achieve what you need?

Excuse pun, but I don't really have access to an access point 

I'm basically trying to Charles Proxy an Xbox360, normally with phones or indeed an AppleTV is a doddle.

Put the WiFi on the device to same network as my laptop, then change proxy to my laptop's IP. I then run some custom software such as Charles to capture all the HTTP requests.

Now xBox does not appear to support that looking at it's network setting, so an idea was to connect the Xbox to my phone via Personal hotspot, then my phone to my laptop via Charles.

But phone is forcing me to 3G 

Sadly not a jailbroken device so can't use MyWy

[Kevin Wood]

So the XBox doesn't support configuring access through a proxy?

I can think of a couple of easier ways:

Connect it to the internet wired via a hub (not a switch) and use another machine on that hub to watch the traffic (using wireshark, for example. Not sure if Charles can do that).

Configure a machine with 2 interfaces to route traffic to it, and watch what's passing between the interfaces. If that doesn't work, run a transparent web proxy on that machine, serving the interface to which the XBox connects, and direct that to point to the machine running Charles to service incoming HTTP requests.

[tunnie]

So the XBox doesn't support configuring access through a proxy?

I can think of a couple of easier ways:

Connect it to the internet wired via a hub (not a switch) and use another machine on that hub to watch the traffic (using wireshark, for example. Not sure if Charles can do that).

Configure a machine with 2 interfaces to route traffic to it, and watch what's passing between the interfaces. If that doesn't work, run a transparent web proxy on that machine, serving the interface to which the XBox connects, and direct that to point to the machine running Charles to service incoming HTTP requests.

Been looking into that but not having much luck, must try hard I think 

Cheers 

[AndyRoid]

I'm guessing the device's Wi-Fi interface can operate as an access point or a client, but not both simultaneously.

Is the correct answer 

[tunnie]

I'm guessing the device's Wi-Fi interface can operate as an access point or a client, but not both simultaneously.

Is the correct answer 

Research was suggesting for iOS at least, MyWy could do both simultaneously 

[Kevin Wood]

So the XBox doesn't support configuring access through a proxy?

I can think of a couple of easier ways:

Connect it to the internet wired via a hub (not a switch) and use another machine on that hub to watch the traffic (using wireshark, for example. Not sure if Charles can do that).

Configure a machine with 2 interfaces to route traffic to it, and watch what's passing between the interfaces. If that doesn't work, run a transparent web proxy on that machine, serving the interface to which the XBox connects, and direct that to point to the machine running Charles to service incoming HTTP requests.

Been looking into that but not having much luck, must try hard I think 

Cheers 

Something like SQUID might do it if it's just vanilla web traffic, or Charles' reverse proxy mode. Not sure how that works but sounds hopeful.

I guess anything interesting is going to be well secured against MITM attacks, so not sure how much you're going to be able to see anyway, unless it's simply traffic between the XBox and a service you're hosting that you're interested in?

[tunnie]

So the XBox doesn't support configuring access through a proxy?

I can think of a couple of easier ways:

Connect it to the internet wired via a hub (not a switch) and use another machine on that hub to watch the traffic (using wireshark, for example. Not sure if Charles can do that).

Configure a machine with 2 interfaces to route traffic to it, and watch what's passing between the interfaces. If that doesn't work, run a transparent web proxy on that machine, serving the interface to which the XBox connects, and direct that to point to the machine running Charles to service incoming HTTP requests.

Been looking into that but not having much luck, must try hard I think 

Cheers 

Something like SQUID might do it if it's just vanilla web traffic, or Charles' reverse proxy mode. Not sure how that works but sounds hopeful.

I guess anything interesting is going to be well secured against MITM attacks, so not sure how much you're going to be able to see anyway, unless it's simply traffic between the XBox and a service you're hosting that you're interested in?

That's what I'm after, often we get given Apps saying "this is broke, take a look" without any documents 

I've won a lot of brownie points being able to go this URL here xxx is getting HTTP 500 error on this or its 404'ing on this.

[Kevin Wood]

Ok. The simplest option of just watching using wireshark on a hub would probably help you out there, with no need to put a proxy in the way of it.

[TheBoy]

I'm guessing the device's Wi-Fi interface can operate as an access point or a client, but not both simultaneously.

Is the correct answer 

Hardware dependent of course, but tunnie has neglected to say which device...

Though I doubt many phones would have suitable hardware to do both simultaneous


Tunnie, Not sure I understand why Wifi to Wifi, presumably to go out via a fixed line? Aren't their better, more established methods in that scenario?