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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #15 on: 26 May 2014, 10:12:31 »

One of the possible reasons for what happened here was a coiled extension lead plugged in when fully wound, even though nothing plugged in.

Ooooo I often do that.....  :o  ::)
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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #16 on: 26 May 2014, 10:29:13 »

One of the possible reasons for what happened here was a coiled extension lead plugged in when fully wound, even though nothing plugged in.

Ooooo I often do that.....  :o  ::)
I am paranoid (long before last year), and anally always go around unplugging stuff. Hence, I don't believe that is the reason, but it was one of the most likely reasons that the Fire Service's investigators came up with (but not the reason that forensics came up with).

Given that I believe that something catastrophic happened, followed by a fire, I don't believe it was an electrical fire that heated the gas, as the Fire Service suspected.
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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #17 on: 26 May 2014, 10:36:07 »

One of the possible reasons for what happened here was a coiled extension lead plugged in when fully wound, even though nothing plugged in.

I don't buy that, but I guess there aren't that many electrical engineers in the fire service. ;)
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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #18 on: 26 May 2014, 10:45:49 »

One of the possible reasons for what happened here was a coiled extension lead plugged in when fully wound, even though nothing plugged in.

I don't buy that, but I guess there aren't that many electrical engineers in the fire service. ;)
I didn't buy it either, for other reasons explained earlier. But also, if no current flow, no heat.  OK, being AC, and being a coil, maybe there is a potential for a few mA, but hardly enough to overheat...

...what there are good at is locating where a fire likely starts, and I think that's why they concentrated on that corner of the garage rubble. They could prove that it was plugged in, but not that it was switched on (although the switch was on when then found it). Electrical specialist couldn't prove if it was definitely on or off either. They could prove nothing was plugged in the reel.

I must say, it was an impressive sight to watch them locate where and how they thought it started, even if my mind was not focussed at the time.
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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #19 on: 26 May 2014, 17:44:09 »

One of the possible reasons for what happened here was a coiled extension lead plugged in when fully wound, even though nothing plugged in.

I don't buy that, but I guess there aren't that many electrical engineers in the fire service. ;)
I didn't buy it either, for other reasons explained earlier. But also, if no current flow, no heat.  OK, being AC, and being a coil, maybe there is a potential for a few mA, but hardly enough to overheat...

...what there are good at is locating where a fire likely starts, and I think that's why they concentrated on that corner of the garage rubble. They could prove that it was plugged in, but not that it was switched on (although the switch was on when then found it). Electrical specialist couldn't prove if it was definitely on or off either. They could prove nothing was plugged in the reel.

I must say, it was an impressive sight to watch them locate where and how they thought it started, even if my mind was not focussed at the time.

Unless they suspected 'foul play' why such an investigation into a garage fire?  ???
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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #20 on: 26 May 2014, 19:23:59 »

One of the possible reasons for what happened here was a coiled extension lead plugged in when fully wound, even though nothing plugged in.

I don't buy that, but I guess there aren't that many electrical engineers in the fire service. ;)
I didn't buy it either, for other reasons explained earlier. But also, if no current flow, no heat.  OK, being AC, and being a coil, maybe there is a potential for a few mA, but hardly enough to overheat...

...what there are good at is locating where a fire likely starts, and I think that's why they concentrated on that corner of the garage rubble. They could prove that it was plugged in, but not that it was switched on (although the switch was on when then found it). Electrical specialist couldn't prove if it was definitely on or off either. They could prove nothing was plugged in the reel.

I must say, it was an impressive sight to watch them locate where and how they thought it started, even if my mind was not focussed at the time.

Unless they suspected 'foul play' why such an investigation into a garage fire?  ???
Because of the explosion.  Although even if there wasn't, they'd have to look into any likelihood of foul play
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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #21 on: 26 May 2014, 20:34:22 »

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Because of the explosion.  Although even if there wasn't, they'd have to look into any likelihood of foul play

It seems a huge investigation into an explosion where you'd have far more to lose than gain if you'd engineered the accident  :-\
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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #22 on: 26 May 2014, 21:06:42 »

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Because of the explosion.  Although even if there wasn't, they'd have to look into any likelihood of foul play

It seems a huge investigation into an explosion where you'd have far more to lose than gain if you'd engineered the accident  :-\
Sorry, I'm not experienced in these matters to know if this was normal or not  :-\. I know they were keen to get to the bottom of the reason why there was an explosion. I think after talking to us, and other residents of the road, they were happy it was not a malicious act, but they still carried on investigating why there was a very significant explosion.
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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #23 on: 26 May 2014, 21:27:24 »

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Because of the explosion.  Although even if there wasn't, they'd have to look into any likelihood of foul play

It seems a huge investigation into an explosion where you'd have far more to lose than gain if you'd engineered the accident  :-\
Sorry, I'm not experienced in these matters to know if this was normal or not  :-\. I know they were keen to get to the bottom of the reason why there was an explosion. I think after talking to us, and other residents of the road, they were happy it was not a malicious act, but they still carried on investigating why there was a very significant explosion.

Neither am I, just curious. Perhaps you have a guilty face!  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Dreary extension lead question
« Reply #24 on: 26 May 2014, 21:30:06 »

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Because of the explosion.  Although even if there wasn't, they'd have to look into any likelihood of foul play

It seems a huge investigation into an explosion where you'd have far more to lose than gain if you'd engineered the accident  :-\
Sorry, I'm not experienced in these matters to know if this was normal or not  :-\. I know they were keen to get to the bottom of the reason why there was an explosion. I think after talking to us, and other residents of the road, they were happy it was not a malicious act, but they still carried on investigating why there was a very significant explosion.

Neither am I, just curious. Perhaps you have a guilty face!  ;D ;D ;D
I must have - one of the coppers who came round reached for his braclets when I said it was caused by the lamps I use for my "Tomato Plants" ::)
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