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[zirk]

Thank you gentlemen. That clears that up. So what I need to do is hire a recovery vehicle and collect the car, unless it has MOT, when I can arrange insurance and tax when I buy.

TBH, with the price of cars these days, do you really wont to buy a car without an MOT?, if the seller is serious about selling then there put an MOT on it and price to sell, if its failed the MOT then whats the car worth? 

[aaronjb]

Who says he can't tow it? I can't remember the exact figures but the weight plate on mine states gross train weight of 3.7tonne ish. That gives you a towing weight over 2 tonne. 1.7t for the car, 300kg trailer, you're in business. Shouldn't struggle, I tow a 1500kg caravan with my dizzle and not a problem. Best tow car I've had

Kerb weight of a 2.2 auto Sport saloon is 1585ish kgs, lightest twin axle car trailer with an 1800 kg payload is 500kgs, which gives a trailer weight of just under 2100kgs...

My Merc was rated to 2100kgs, but the 3.2 Estate wouldn't come close... certainly far enough over to be shot at the roadside

No such problems here with a max braked trailer weight of 3500kg and GTW of almost 6000Kg..

[05omegav6]

Who says he can't tow it? I can't remember the exact figures but the weight plate on mine states gross train weight of 3.7tonne ish. That gives you a towing weight over 2 tonne. 1.7t for the car, 300kg trailer, you're in business. Shouldn't struggle, I tow a 1500kg caravan with my dizzle and not a problem. Best tow car I've had

Kerb weight of a 2.2 auto Sport saloon is 1585ish kgs, lightest twin axle car trailer with an 1800 kg payload is 500kgs, which gives a trailer weight of just under 2100kgs...

My Merc was rated to 2100kgs, but the 3.2 Estate wouldn't come close... certainly far enough over to be shot at the roadside

No such problems here with a max braked trailer weight of 3500kg and GTW of almost 6000Kg..

And it's the obligatory orange

[aaronjb]

Who says he can't tow it? I can't remember the exact figures but the weight plate on mine states gross train weight of 3.7tonne ish. That gives you a towing weight over 2 tonne. 1.7t for the car, 300kg trailer, you're in business. Shouldn't struggle, I tow a 1500kg caravan with my dizzle and not a problem. Best tow car I've had

Kerb weight of a 2.2 auto Sport saloon is 1585ish kgs, lightest twin axle car trailer with an 1800 kg payload is 500kgs, which gives a trailer weight of just under 2100kgs...

My Merc was rated to 2100kgs, but the 3.2 Estate wouldn't come close... certainly far enough over to be shot at the roadside

No such problems here with a max braked trailer weight of 3500kg and GTW of almost 6000Kg..

And it's the obligatory orange

I believe the colour is Ford "Look at me! I have a tiny penis" Orange. 

[05omegav6]

A double bluff I reckon... a 'car' that size says that loudly enough already

[firemoth]

Rated towing weight isn't legally binding. Gross train weight is. And I know from experience. I was towing a 1200kg bayliner boat (1500kg all in) with a Peugeot 405 saloon. 1200kg rated. Anyway I got pulled (inevitably) and put on a weighbridge. My gtw allowance was 2850kg, I weighed in a 2580kg. I knew I was within, and of course you drive to tree conditions before anyone has a go at me (im an HGV driver - I know the law and I appreciate he laws of physics, unlike some). Point is, if plod couldn't do me (and believe me they were trying) then it must be legal

[Sir Tigger KC]

No such problems here with a max braked trailer weight of 3500kg and GTW of almost 6000Kg..

Fat bastid!   

[firemoth]

No such problems here with a max braked trailer weight of 3500kg and GTW of almost 6000Kg..

Gtw is not almost 6000kg. I suggest you look again how you're making your figures. The tow car governs the gtw. The trailer can be whatever Max gross you want. But your ACTUAL WEIGHT cannot exceed the gtw (physical weight of car, trailer and load) of the tow car, the car cannot weigh more than its gross weight, the trailer cannot exceed its gross weight, and no axle can be over its rated weight. To suggest a gross weight of 6 tonne is possible with a car and trailer is more than ambitious

[05omegav6]

I think you'll find Aarons "car" is a 200bhp Ford Ranger double cab

[Kevin Wood]

For the younger members, of course, it also depends on what your License allows.

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/driving-licence-rules-and-what-you-can-tow

[aaronjb]

I think you'll find Aarons "car" is a 200bhp Ford Ranger double cab

  Yup, and figures were quoted from the manufacturers bumf.. There's max axle loads in there as well of course, and towing a 3500Kg trailer means I can no longer stick a tonne in the bed and be within the GTW (which I know has caught a few builders out!)..

For the younger members, of course, it also depends on what your License allows.

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/driving-licence-rules-and-what-you-can-tow

Sometimes being over 35 pays off  (Passed my test in '95 so I get the 8.25tonne MAM plus other categories younguns no longer get - if it weren't for the mandatory annual training requirements I'd be tempted to go and do my HGV just to round the license out.. )

[firemoth]

If you're referring to the drivers CPC (aka money spinning rip off ) it's 5 yearly if it helps. And CPC isn't required for private use ie if you hired a wagon to move your personal stuff. Anything that's not for hire and reward

[aaronjb]

That's the one.. I thought it was yearly for some reason - every 5 isn't so bad at all.. If I had my HGV I'd want to keep it up to date somehow though, it's always an alternative form of employment if the arse drops out of IT (again!)

[firemoth]

The "course" consists of 5 modules. Most drivers plan to do a module a year. That was it's 1 day / £80 lost rather than a bumf of a week (meaning bad weeks wage due to lost overtime / night out pay) with a cost of £400 to fork out