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[Kevin Wood]

the parents need to feel responsible.

And so they bloody well should.

..and they should be Held responsible.

[Doctor Gollum]

Its not just kids though, obviously. Any nieve drop out from society will do.

You may of seen some of the Islamic state individuals on the news, claiming Sharia law etc etc around London a few years back. Odd balls, each one. Pushed forward from the crowd to speak out, while the clerics sit in the back ground organising and cajoling them from under a "friendly" arm(or hook) . The body language and positioning in the group was painfull to watch, the staging was so blatant, yet the individuals completely oblivious.

Grooming exists in many forms. From the church to Isis. Savile and Glitter to (allegedly)the colour pink for Girls is said not to be a natural choice, but one society forces on them, for example.... ( Bollards to that last one btw) How wide is your range of acceptance of "training" ...?

 Boris Johnson made some comments a few weeks ago that made him a better profiler than the orthoroties imo. Nail on head!

Putins reach much goes much further than we accept. As Syria would be very differant today if not for his stance on western intervention. Ok, waffling now.

Back on topic. If we allow the "drop outs" (for want of a better phrase) from society to free fall,  one has to ask how low can they go and will you accept the consequences. Clearly there are no depths too low in some quarters.

[ckz]

Round them up, put em in a feild and bomb the Bastards.

 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm still struggling to understand how 3 schoolgirls were allowed to travel to Turkey in the first place.     Especially as they were all of Middle Eastern appearance/extraction, although that probably stopped anyone from asking questions for fear of being labelled racist. 

I guess it's another consequence of not having proper border controls. 

[Kevin Wood]

I'm still struggling to understand how 3 schoolgirls were allowed to travel to Turkey in the first place.     Especially as they were all of Middle Eastern appearance/extraction, although that probably stopped anyone from asking questions for fear of being labelled racist. 

I guess it's another consequence of not having proper border controls. 

Or any parental control. I still fail to understand how they became radicalised, planned such a trip, including obtaining passports, tickets and visas and then disappeared without raising an inking of suspicion among their families.

[The Sheriff]

When enquiries were made in turkey as to whether the girls had been spotted or not, a local policeman said "They all look the same to me". 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm still struggling to understand how 3 schoolgirls were allowed to travel to Turkey in the first place.     Especially as they were all of Middle Eastern appearance/extraction, although that probably stopped anyone from asking questions for fear of being labelled racist. 

I guess it's another consequence of not having proper border controls. 

Or any parental control. I still fail to understand how they became radicalised, planned such a trip, including obtaining passports, tickets and visas and then disappeared without raising an inking of suspicion among their families.

I guess all of that can be quietly achieved online in a bedroom and if they had possession of their own passports or knew where their parents kept all the families passports then it's job done. 

[ckz]

When enquiries were made in turkey as to whether the girls had been spotted or not, a local policeman said "They all look the same to me". 

dont surprise me at all. 

[05omegav6]

No one seems to have acknowledged that one of the girls had stolen her older sisters passport, making her seem older. Two kids over the age of twelve travelling with an older teenager during half term week... probably a few hundred thousand kids in the same position

Myself and my colleagues have dropped off and collected some thirty children at /from airports over the past couple of weekends. The only issue was with one eleven year old travelling on a first class adult ticket, and the only person who took exception to him was an over zealous Customs Officer when he came back to Gatwick.

[Sir Tigger KC]

No one seems to have acknowledged that one of the girls had stolen her older sisters passport, making her seem older. Two kids over the age of twelve travelling with an older teenager during half term week... probably a few hundred thousand kids in the same position

Myself and my colleagues have dropped off and collected some thirty children at /from airports over the past couple of weekends. The only issue was with one eleven year old travelling on a first class adult ticket, and the only person who took exception to him was an over zealous Customs Officer when he came back to Gatwick.

Ah, I missed that.    It explains a lot. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

The Beeb are just reporting that the girls were smuggled into Syria 4 or 5 days ago. 

My guess is that they will find out what the the old saying about being careful what you wish for is all about. 

[The Sheriff]

I started this thread to complain that the BBC wouldn't shut up about it and now you're all at it.

Don't care.......

[TheBoy]

I find it odd that 2 of the families clearly have do decent pictures of their daughters, going by the tv news pictures.  Although in some cultures, having girls is always a disappointment.