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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #30 on: 15 July 2015, 14:28:43 »

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The bottom trim is one piece rubber, and is attached to the screen with black adhesive; it's attached to the body too, with the same adhesive. Possibly he was generous with the adhesive and it got everywhere, but I see no harm in that.
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I was going to suggest that this was an afterthought by the fitter, or something that he does off his own back, but then I came acoss this link.

Section 41 is of interest:
http://workshop-manuals.com/vauxhall/omega-b/c__body_equipment/glass_window_guides_window_winders/windscreen/repair_instructions/windscreen_remove_and_install_or_replace_f69_f35_with_bo-46974/

Definitely no adhesive on mine, or any other one that I've worked on. Was this something that was done only on early models.  :-\
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #31 on: 15 July 2015, 14:40:15 »

That is the bead of Eurothane That is used to bond the glass into the aperture  :y
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #32 on: 15 July 2015, 14:47:29 »

That is the bead of Eurothane That is used to bond the glass into the aperture  :y

Oh yeh, I forgot about that.  :-[ :y
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #33 on: 15 July 2015, 22:38:49 »

Thanks to YZ250 for the Vx workshop manual section on windscreen removal and fitting. I do not recall any of the winch or cutting wire use when Autoglass changed the screen on my Opel Omega last year.
I have failed to attach either the original lower seal or the lower seal removed from the Opel. I have replaced the original seal, but it is only held on by the scuttle. The car is useable, especially with the 'improved' coil pack location. It is not a good solution.
 A new screen would solve the problem, but the screen is fine. I still reckon the cure is to glue seal to bottom of screen with an appropriate adhesive. Can anyone suggest one? Or is there another solution?
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #34 on: 16 July 2015, 00:48:11 »

Acquirebthe genuine frames and rubber and fit them accordingly... No glue required. Ever.
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #35 on: 16 July 2015, 01:04:55 »

Ok Here is How It goes  :y

There are 3 ways of removing a front Laminated windscreen....(1)Kent Tool It out, (2)Wire it out.(3)use a electric Kent tool type of thing That the likes of autoglass used years ago.

If the glass is scrap and it can be kented out,That will be the way the fitter will do it,Thats always the quickest way.. :y
He will run round the screen with the tool below and if the bottom is tight he will chuck a dash gaurd (6"x 12" Ali)on your dash and long knife the bottom out.



If the glass is known to be a bitch, IE (tight on the aperture) or If you are trying to save trims,Or if it is a remove & refit.It will need to be wired out.

Cheese wire will be poked through the Eurothane/Bond/Sealant At top middle of the screen & bottom middle of the screen (with like a 2 prong fine fork)Two handles will be put on the ends of the wire. And the fitter will stand at the side of the car and going left & right with his arms, cut half the screen out.Then he will move to the other side of the car and finish the job.
A dash gaurd may be needed and inner side trims removed (depends what car)

Remove & Refit
This is if it is a leaking screen and back filling is not a option OR if the screen is being removed from a breaker  :y
For this you dont want it to go wrong cos you want that glass,,, So make it a two man job  :y 1 in 1 out

Find what you think is the biggest gap in the  Eurothane/Bond/Sealant, And carefully get your cheese wire through it with the wire tool.
Now working together you will slowly work your way around the glass, cutting through the bond until you get to the end when you will have the screen cut out.Go Slow..You want the glass..

Trims
These have nothing at all to do with the fitting/seal of a bonded screen, they are cosmetic to make it look pleasing to the eye..They are not a seal..There a trim  :y

This is a general guide on how its done to most cars in general, And i myself have done thosands.

I may of missed something out & i may of spelt things wrong, but that is about how it is.  :y

PS:- This does not apply to a maestro...Just sit in drivers seat and boot it out with the aperture.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #36 on: 16 July 2015, 01:27:51 »

That Spelling Above is Craep  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #37 on: 16 July 2015, 08:19:01 »

Thanks Big Time. That was fascinating, and explains a lot.
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #38 on: 16 July 2015, 11:51:13 »

I found a load of info on this on the OOF in relation to rainwater leaking through and onto the engine/plugwells.

I followed the instructions and the advice to fix the plastic strip seal onto the glass with "Gripfill" and simply snapped the rubber seal back on the top.

No further trouble since then - at least not with water ingress!!
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #39 on: 16 July 2015, 20:21:48 »

I found a load of info on this on the OOF in relation to rainwater leaking through and onto the engine/plugwells.

I followed the instructions and the advice to fix the plastic strip seal onto the glass with "Gripfill" and simply snapped the rubber seal back on the top.

No further trouble since then - at least not with water ingress!!
£2.33 for 360 mls, can't be bad. So you managed to sreparate plastic strip and rubber; well done. I have 3 strips here, though one seems to be just rubber. Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Is windscreen bottom rubber push on or glued on?
« Reply #40 on: 18 July 2015, 22:39:09 »

Thanks to all for advice. Today I bought a tube of Gripfill, and stuck the seal to the screen bottom with it. Worked a treat. Replaced scuttle, job done.
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