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Re: A small and simple request
« Reply #30 on: 31 October 2015, 09:15:57 »

This is an interesting read and puts some perspective on a few comments made here.  You may wish to skip to the second half of the article:

http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/joyfully-riding-a-cargo-bike-in-london/
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Re: A small and simple request
« Reply #31 on: 31 October 2015, 09:34:38 »

Agree....a good read.
Written by someone who appreciates all points of view :y
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Re: A small and simple request
« Reply #32 on: 31 October 2015, 10:06:07 »

Agree....a good read.
Written by someone who appreciates all points of view :y


Too true that

Shame about some of the silly bastards in the comments section  ;D
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Re: A small and simple request
« Reply #33 on: 31 October 2015, 16:12:01 »

This is an interesting read and puts some perspective on a few comments made here.  You may wish to skip to the second half of the article:

http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/joyfully-riding-a-cargo-bike-in-london/

The 'cargo' bike just looks scary when the 'cargo' is young children - they are incredibly vulnerable.
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Re: A small and simple request
« Reply #34 on: 01 November 2015, 02:00:07 »

Banter mode off for a minute ........

Cycles are not compatible with busy city roads.
The roads are just too full nowdays.
It doesn't matter how well lit the cyclist is, how courteously he is riding the cycle, he / she will always get in the way of the motor vehicle driver.
The motor vehicle is a minimum of 1 ton of metal and the driver knows that if he hits a cyclist, the cyclist will come off much worse so he quite simply, the majority of drivers just don't give a toss  :)
Add to that "the law of the jungle" were nobody likes to be beaten from A to B by some lycra wearing, lentel eating, cycle nazi with a naf helmet camera  :D  who doesn't know or care about the traffic laws then it is only going to end in tears  :)
Added to the fact that cyclists don't have to carry insurance for when they are using the public highway or pay road fund tax, this only goes even further to piss of the drivers of motor vehicles.

Its a shame because not all cyclists and motor vehicle drivers are complete idiots.
Sadly, its the minority that lets down the others and gives them a bad reputation  :(

Cities need to setup dedicated cycle routes, well away from the mainstream traffic for the safety of all concerned.
When these routes cross the roads, cyclists need to understand that they must obey the road traffic act and take there turn in a traffic queue with the rest of the road users.

I totally agree with you  :y :y :y Pedestrianise and have cycle routes in cities, and set up park and ride schemes so cars have to be left in town / city peripheral car parks and either have trams or light railways. Lorries should be banned from 7am to 8pm. This will also stop the 1000's dying in inner cities per year from devil juice Nox poisoning. What's not to like about it. :y :y :y
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Re: A small and simple request
« Reply #35 on: 01 November 2015, 08:10:54 »

Banter mode off for a minute ........

Cycles are not compatible with busy city roads.
The roads are just too full nowdays.
It doesn't matter how well lit the cyclist is, how courteously he is riding the cycle, he / she will always get in the way of the motor vehicle driver.
The motor vehicle is a minimum of 1 ton of metal and the driver knows that if he hits a cyclist, the cyclist will come off much worse so he quite simply, the majority of drivers just don't give a toss  :)
Add to that "the law of the jungle" were nobody likes to be beaten from A to B by some lycra wearing, lentel eating, cycle nazi with a naf helmet camera  :D  who doesn't know or care about the traffic laws then it is only going to end in tears  :)
Added to the fact that cyclists don't have to carry insurance for when they are using the public highway or pay road fund tax, this only goes even further to piss of the drivers of motor vehicles.

Its a shame because not all cyclists and motor vehicle drivers are complete idiots.
Sadly, its the minority that lets down the others and gives them a bad reputation  :(

Cities need to setup dedicated cycle routes, well away from the mainstream traffic for the safety of all concerned.
When these routes cross the roads, cyclists need to understand that they must obey the road traffic act and take there turn in a traffic queue with the rest of the road users.

I totally agree with you  :y :y :y Pedestrianise and have cycle routes in cities, and set up park and ride schemes so cars have to be left in town / city peripheral car parks and either have trams or light railways. Lorries should be banned from 7am to 8pm. This will also stop the 1000's dying in inner cities per year from devil juice Nox poisoning. What's not to like about it. :y :y :y

You can't have lorries at any time if it's pedestrianised - Rail Freight is the future  :y
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