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[gwa]

Surely the pilot must have it going really slow, cos when anything hits water its like hitting a brick wall 'instant stop'. Followed by breakup and god knows what, spot on bloke that pilot.

 

Maybe Tony Blair should give the pilot the United States' highest civil award - the Medal of Freedom

 

[Entwood]

Surely the pilot must have it going really slow, cos when anything hits water its like hitting a brick wall 'instant stop'. Followed by breakup and god knows what, spot on bloke that pilot.

 

Maybe Tony Blair should give the pilot the United States' highest civil award - the Medal of Freedom

 

The ideal speed for ditching is usually Vstall + 10 knots .. this gives sufficient forward speed for aerodynamic control AND ensures a "glancing" or "shallow" touchdown... without bouncing. It is a vertical impact on water that is akin to hitting concrete, which is why you don't "stall" on or bounce. The Vstall+10 will also give  a high nose up attitude so that the flat "belly" of the aircraft takes the impact.. but not too high a nose-up that on impact the aircraft rotates suddenly nosedown and "smacks" into the surface.

These things are practiced in simulators by all pilots, but nothing can prepare you for actually having to do it.

This pilot appears to have done everything right ...

so Congratulations Sir ... you should never have to buy a beer again  

[Omega man 2]

very lucky no one was injured  (5 animals died they were being transported in the hold and drowned)
anyone know how long  a plane will float for ?

doug

depends on the type of aircraft, amount of damage sustained to the fuselage, amount of fuel remaining, laden weight and the water conditions

It was still floating at 1 this morning. Even a couple of hours after everyone escaped

[Kevin Wood]

You can see it all replayed here:

http://www4.passur.com/lga.html

Set date to Jan 15th, time to 15:25 and range to 10 miles.

You can see AWE1549 take off in green a minute or two in, from the centre of the sceen heading upwards. Climbs to about 3,400 feet and then starts a rapid descent followed by a tight turn to the left to reach the river. You can see one light aircraft heading up the river the opposite way at 1,000 feet take avoiding action and then go back for a look, accompanied by another, which seems to hover in the area.

Have a look at La Guardia on google earth and you can see that was his only option.  He was down to 1,300 feet when he reached the river.

Kevin

[stuart30]

Well id say the pilot has balls...heard something on the radio about how even seasoned pilots often panic when in such a situation and by all accounts this guy kept calm and took control of what could have been a disaster.

Really hope he receives the rewards he deserves....

Lucky that wasnt on the Thames...would have probably got a bloody parking ticket.

[Lazydocker]

That was fascinating Kevin

Pleased to hear the pilot is being acknowledged for his bravery

[Ian_D]

You can see it all replayed here:

http://www4.passur.com/lga.html

Set date to Jan 15th, time to 15:25 and range to 10 miles.

You can see AWE1549 take off in green a minute or two in, from the centre of the sceen heading upwards. Climbs to about 3,400 feet and then starts a rapid descent followed by a tight turn to the left to reach the river. You can see one light aircraft heading up the river the opposite way at 1,000 feet take avoiding action and then go back for a look, accompanied by another, which seems to hover in the area.

Have a look at La Guardia on google earth and you can see that was his only option.  He was down to 1,300 feet when he reached the river.

Kevin

Very intresting! Love things like that!

Have some software on the laptop (acarsd maybe?) that displays planes on a map and the flight info. Can do it over the internet or by plugging it into my scanner!  

[Kevin Wood]

You can see it all replayed here:

http://www4.passur.com/lga.html

Set date to Jan 15th, time to 15:25 and range to 10 miles.

You can see AWE1549 take off in green a minute or two in, from the centre of the sceen heading upwards. Climbs to about 3,400 feet and then starts a rapid descent followed by a tight turn to the left to reach the river. You can see one light aircraft heading up the river the opposite way at 1,000 feet take avoiding action and then go back for a look, accompanied by another, which seems to hover in the area.

Have a look at La Guardia on google earth and you can see that was his only option.  He was down to 1,300 feet when he reached the river.

Kevin

Very intresting! Love things like that!

Have some software on the laptop (acarsd maybe?) that displays planes on a map and the flight info. Can do it over the internet or by plugging it into my scanner!  

There is a box that you can get which will directly receive and plot the ADS-B data from the aircraft's Mode-S transponder.

http://www.hamradio.co.uk/kinetic-sbs-1e.shtml

It's not exactly cheap but it's quite mesmerising to have a play with. You can sit in the above shop and watch all the traffic coming into and out of Heathrow. In addition to the ADS-B information (heading, speed, position, altitude, etc.) It captures the aircraft's 24 bit ICAO address, looks it up in various online databases and works out the type and regsitration of the aircraft, the carrier, finds its' flight plan and identifies what service it is operating, etc.  8-)

A plane spotter's dream.

Sadly, a little too expensive to buy just as a "toy".

I believe it can publish info to the web, so you might find people have set these up for public access.

Kevin

[Kevin Wood]

Hmm. Just looked at ACARSD and it looks interesting. Won't update as often as position information via Mode-S but it's easier to receive and decode. Might have a go at that sometime. Looks like you can just bunbg the output from an air band receiver into your sound card.

Kevin

[Ian_D]

You can see it all replayed here:

http://www4.passur.com/lga.html

Set date to Jan 15th, time to 15:25 and range to 10 miles.

You can see AWE1549 take off in green a minute or two in, from the centre of the sceen heading upwards. Climbs to about 3,400 feet and then starts a rapid descent followed by a tight turn to the left to reach the river. You can see one light aircraft heading up the river the opposite way at 1,000 feet take avoiding action and then go back for a look, accompanied by another, which seems to hover in the area.

Have a look at La Guardia on google earth and you can see that was his only option.  He was down to 1,300 feet when he reached the river.

Kevin

Very intresting! Love things like that!

Have some software on the laptop (acarsd maybe?) that displays planes on a map and the flight info. Can do it over the internet or by plugging it into my scanner!  

There is a box that you can get which will directly receive and plot the ADS-B data from the aircraft's Mode-S transponder.

http://www.hamradio.co.uk/kinetic-sbs-1e.shtml

It's not exactly cheap but it's quite mesmerising to have a play with. You can sit in the above shop and watch all the traffic coming into and out of Heathrow. In addition to the ADS-B information (heading, speed, position, altitude, etc.) It captures the aircraft's 24 bit ICAO address, looks it up in various online databases and works out the type and regsitration of the aircraft, the carrier, finds its' flight plan and identifies what service it is operating, etc.  8-)

A plane spotter's dream.

Sadly, a little too expensive to buy just as a "toy".

I believe it can publish info to the web, so you might find people have set these up for public access.

Kevin

Looks good, but too expensive for me!

[Ian_D]

Hmm. Just looked at ACARSD and it looks interesting. Won't update as often as position information via Mode-S but it's easier to receive and decode. Might have a go at that sometime. Looks like you can just bunbg the output from an air band receiver into your sound card.

Kevin

Yes thats right, I plug my MVT-7100 straight into the microphone port on the laptop, and it works fine - just have to make sure the scanners volume is fairly low first, as it should go in the line in really, however my laptop doesnt have one unless its in its docking station!

Leave the scanner scanning, and as soon as it picks something up, ACARSD decodes it.