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[Lizzie_Zoom]

My 2p worth.

Given that they will be fully supported by the state in the form of incapacity benefits etc....do they really warrant a golden payout? (possibly applies to all roles).

Plus, if you dont want to get shot at, dont sign up.

(awaits feedback   )

True 

but...............




......then you will never have experienced the biggest rush in the world! 

....there is a downside however G  :-/ :-/ - kicks in when you're older and tend to reflect too much

The panic, confusion, the hope that you haven't blanked one of your own and the awful realization that when the silence does come, that someone you were messing with or talking to earlier just isn't there anymore.

There's no more pitiable sight than broken bodies but it's the eyes of those who were not involved in such incidents that always affected me.  There was pity and sympathy yes, but there was also gladness and secret satisfaction that they weren't there.

Only those who have direct experience of such things get it and generally those emotions are conveyed by the merest glance - a look of certain understanding - that’s all it takes.

Sights, sounds and the malevolent odour of death and destruction can't be readily shaken away. God knows I’ve tried.

Being a scablifter I know exactly where you are coming from, I was trying to aleiviate a little bit of the heavy atmosphere.

.....and where we be without you G

I got your intention - the gabbing is down to me - thinking too much is a bad thing at times, but unavoidable all the same

Sorry 

Why Zulu!   You are only saying it as it is daily for our brave soldiers, away from the clinical, safe environment of our civilian lives and the corridors of power who have sent them there!!

Now after they have been through all that, with now broken bodies, they want to limit the help they can receive!!

Here I go again!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Then...............for the relatives who lose the child they have brought into this world, nurtured, gone through life's pains and adventures with, loved to the extreme............what do they get?    A f'king knock on the door......"we regret to inform you"................!!!!

If the politicians want to push our servicemen into wars that are distant from our shores, so not for our immediate home defence, with poor, limited equipment, then let them pay for it when individual lives are destroyed forever!!

My father is still suffering from his Second  World War personal losses, my Great Aunt did the same with that war and the Great War.  What did my father get when he retired from the Royal Navy after 26 years, paying into a pension?  A pension that was taxed as "unearned income"!!!!!!!

This current and past governments just don't give a sod for the people who have served God, Queen & Country!  Never have, and probably never will!!

Phew!!! Rant almost over!!

[Dishevelled Den]

My 2p worth.

Given that they will be fully supported by the state in the form of incapacity benefits etc....do they really warrant a golden payout? (possibly applies to all roles).

Plus, if you dont want to get shot at, dont sign up.

(awaits feedback   )

True 

but...............




......then you will never have experienced the biggest rush in the world! 

....there is a downside however G  :-/ :-/ - kicks in when you're older and tend to reflect too much

The panic, confusion, the hope that you haven't blanked one of your own and the awful realization that when the silence does come, that someone you were messing with or talking to earlier just isn't there anymore.

There's no more pitiable sight than broken bodies but it's the eyes of those who were not involved in such incidents that always affected me.  There was pity and sympathy yes, but there was also gladness and secret satisfaction that they weren't there.

Only those who have direct experience of such things get it and generally those emotions are conveyed by the merest glance - a look of certain understanding - that’s all it takes.

Sights, sounds and the malevolent odour of death and destruction can't be readily shaken away. God knows I’ve tried.

Being a scablifter I know exactly where you are coming from, I was trying to aleiviate a little bit of the heavy atmosphere.

.....and where we be without you G

I got your intention - the gabbing is down to me - thinking too much is a bad thing at times, but unavoidable all the same

Sorry 

Why Zulu!   You are only saying it as it is daily for our brave soldiers, away from the clinical, safe environment of our civilian lives and the corridors of power who have sent them there!!

Now after they have been through all that, with now broken bodies, they want to limit the help they can receive!!

Here I go again!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

  I love the sound of that Ms Zoom

I was being a bit indulgent earlier, sometime over-detail isn't the best way to describe any event.

The effect of the sights seen by both myself and the thousands of others shouldn't be held to the throats of those who have not served.

There is a cut-off beyond which graphic detail is counter-productive as people tend to shut out unpleasantness - not unreasonably if truth be told.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

My 2p worth.

Given that they will be fully supported by the state in the form of incapacity benefits etc....do they really warrant a golden payout? (possibly applies to all roles).

Plus, if you dont want to get shot at, dont sign up.

(awaits feedback   )

True 

but...............




......then you will never have experienced the biggest rush in the world! 

....there is a downside however G  :-/ :-/ - kicks in when you're older and tend to reflect too much

The panic, confusion, the hope that you haven't blanked one of your own and the awful realization that when the silence does come, that someone you were messing with or talking to earlier just isn't there anymore.

There's no more pitiable sight than broken bodies but it's the eyes of those who were not involved in such incidents that always affected me.  There was pity and sympathy yes, but there was also gladness and secret satisfaction that they weren't there.

Only those who have direct experience of such things get it and generally those emotions are conveyed by the merest glance - a look of certain understanding - that’s all it takes.

Sights, sounds and the malevolent odour of death and destruction can't be readily shaken away. God knows I’ve tried.

Being a scablifter I know exactly where you are coming from, I was trying to aleiviate a little bit of the heavy atmosphere.

.....and where we be without you G

I got your intention - the gabbing is down to me - thinking too much is a bad thing at times, but unavoidable all the same

Sorry 

Why Zulu!   You are only saying it as it is daily for our brave soldiers, away from the clinical, safe environment of our civilian lives and the corridors of power who have sent them there!!

Now after they have been through all that, with now broken bodies, they want to limit the help they can receive!!

Here I go again!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

  I love the sound of that Ms Zoom

I was being a bit indulgent earlier, sometime over-detail isn't the best way to describe any event.

The effect of the sights seen by both myself and the thousands of others shouldn't be held to the throats of those who have not served.

There is a cut-off beyond which graphic detail is counter-productive as people tend to shut out unpleasantness - not unreasonably if truth be told.

Sorry Zulu but that is the dumbing down the government of today and yesterday always want to keep the reality of their actions of war away from the public, as they did in both world wars and produce proganda to keep public support going.  That was especially true in the first years of the Great War, but eventually the truth came out and the public started asking seaching questions.

It is 2009 and now we have worldwide media coverage and thank God politicians can no longer hide all the horror of war from the public, and maybe they will demand a ceasation of war.

Let all the British public know what horrors are being acted out in their name!!

[tigers_gonads]

Then...............for the relatives who lose the child they have brought into this world, nurtured, gone through life's pains and adventures with, loved to the extreme............what do they get?    A f'king knock on the door......"we regret to inform you"................!!!!

If the politicians want to push our servicemen into wars that are distant from our shores, so not for our immediate home defence, with poor, limited equipment, then let them pay for it when individual lives are destroyed forever!!

My father is still suffering from his Second  World War personal losses, my Great Aunt did the same with that war and the Great War.  What did my father get when he retired from the Royal Navy after 26 years, paying into a pension?  A pension that was taxed as "unearned income"!!!!!!!

This current and past governments just don't give a sod for the people who have served God, Queen & Country!  Never have, and probably never will!!
Phew!!! Rant almost over!!

sadly lizzie, your right on that one 

as soon as you take the queens shilling, your there's to do whatever they wish 
all squadys know that.......... all they want is a little respect from those above and the people back home 

[amigov6]

Listening to this today & it's a tricky one. I think most of us agree injuries should be compensated as should any genuine after affects. Sadly in any career services or civilian there are those who will milk it.
    Trying to distinguish between the two is a "minefield" (sorry)....  Stewards inquiry on this one. :-/