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[Dave-C]

Sorry to hear about your dads car mate even if they didn't get away with the car it's the feeling of violation and the damage (especially to older people) they leave that really causes upset. community sevice and small fines  boll*x what I say is cut there f*cking hands off!

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DC

[Dave-C]

Quite a few years ago, a good mate of mine (Rough Ar5e geezer) a decent family man even so..  at 2.30 in the morning caught a youth (22-25) attempting to break into his Land Rover on his drive behind his 6ft gate, Jon (Not his real name) gave him a swift kick to the chest, winded him and put him back first onto next doors lower drive..  Anyway, this sh1te then got up as Jon was jumping down to him, he had the cheek to threaten Jon, with the police and other reprisal acts, 'nuff said.. Jon placed, Oh so very gentley! this sh1te into the back of his Landy and took him sight seeing, Blackshaw Moor is lovely in November, a bit cold however...   Jon, asked the young gentleman to alight his vehicle, where he instructed him that the next time he has to bring him to this location, that, it will be for the digging of a 6ft x 2ft hole 4ft deep, whilst Jon has a cigarette and watches..  Only Jon would then return home!!!

Jon left him shivering and returned home alone....

What do I mix with !!!  Law abiding citizens.........

DC

[smoothomega]

That's why we have guns . . .  

Sorry to hear.  It's just not worth having nice stuff.

Does make you wonder why you work hard to have what you want and spend countless hours looking after things when in the space of a minuite someone comes along who has probably never done a days work in there lifes and decides they want what you have got, violate your space and possesions and take it, or try too. Trouble is they know if they are caught all they will end up with is a slap on the wrists and a fine which they will have to pay at a penny a week!!!!!! Makes me sooooooooo angry
Thanks for all your comments guys

[Ronald_McBurger]

Oh you will love this.

About 10 years ago in London I bought a D-reg Montego Vand Den Plas Auto for the wife. 12k from new and looked like new as well. Not the best car, but great condition.

One night I was at a friends house fixing his central heating when I heard a car roar off. 'There goes someones car' I said. It was. Mine!

Anyway, police made me go to the police station to queue up and produce all our documents. Insurance company were not interested as they had accidentally switched our cover from TPFT to TPO when we changed cars and I hadn't noticed.

So, we were one car less.

Anyway, about 8 months later I get a phone call to say they had found it. It had been used in a series of robberies in Hackney, but was basically Ok - according to the police. I had to go to stratford pound to collect it.

When I got there I had to queue up behind several people also collecting their cars. Arguments and rows galore, but when I got to the front the woman behind the counter just turned away and started doing a load of paperwork. 'Excuse me' I said. 'WAIT!' was the very gruff reply. I then said ' Excuse me, I have been asked...' 'I said WAIT - what are you, deaf?' This just made my blood boil so I explained to this idiot that I had come to collect my car, which had been recovered by the police. 'You shouldn't park illegally should you then Mr perfect'. 'Listen to me once and for all you.  I am the victim of a crime. You have absolutely no right to talk to me like that. You are a civil servant that couldn't get a proper job and I now understand why you are sat behind bullet proof glass. Ignorant toss pot. Get someone out here who is able to deal with me or I take this straight back to the police station'.

Out came the manager with an even bigger attitude. He tried to lecture me about how I had upset his staff and that they were just trying to help. The rudest pair of winkers I met ever. Anyway, I finally got the OK to go and get it and was pointed to a yard that had about 2000 cars in it. 'Where do I go then?' 'You'lll have to look won't you'

After a LONG look I did spot it. Every panel dented in, door lock missing, ignition missing and looked like a tip inside. I would rather not have it back. then the fun of hot-wiring. Now, forgive my naiveity here, but not being a thief I had no idea what you twist together or anything. Luckily a bloke nearby did and got it started.

On the way home I was stopped by the police as I was driving a stolen car!!!. I was shouted at and verbally abused by this numpty until I waived the release form at him, to which he calmed down and said not to worry then.

I bought a new lock, fixed the door and ignition, cleaned it up, knocked the dents out and sold it for £795 a week later. Double what I paid for it.

Moral of the story? None at all. Unless 'I hate thieving barstewards' counts?

[bob.dent]

Really sorry to hear this Jez, it's obviously going to cost a few quid to put the damage right but at least these scum didn't get away with the car. I think I'd have been out the door like a shot armed with a baseball bat and sod the consequences.

This is yet another legacy of the Blair government's soft policies on discipline for kids and youngsters - nobody can touch them anymore and they bloody well know it!!

As Elite Pete commented on last night's Car Wars programme, even when they do catch these scumbags they get a 40 quid fine and a bit of community service - WHAT KIND OF DETERRENT IS THAT??!!

[smoothomega]

Hi Bob
Dads just recovering from a heart attack and mum had to hold him back, but as he has said on reflection had he have gone outside, his heart problem aside, he may well have ended up with a knife between his ribs or even shot!!!!! Who knows in this day and age, at least the damage to the car can be repaired, the damage to to him could have been fatal if he had tried to approch them. As for discipline well there is none is there, if i had backchatted my dad when i was younger i would have had my block knocked off.....still would come to that, but i like to think with a bit of discipline at home it has made me a good person with respect for others. I really do dread to think what we have in store for us in the years to come

[bob.dent]

Hi Bob
Dads just recovering from a heart attack and mum had to hold him back, but as he has said on reflection had he have gone outside, his heart problem aside, he may well have ended up with a knife between his ribs or even shot!!!!! Who knows in this day and age, at least the damage to the car can be repaired, the damage to to him could have been fatal if he had tried to approch them. As for discipline well there is none is there, if i had backchatted my dad when i was younger i would have had my block knocked off.....still would come to that, but i like to think with a bit of discipline at home it has made me a good person with respect for others. I really do dread to think what we have in store for us in the years to come

I take your point there Jez, you never know what these sh*theads carry around with them these days, but I think it's a chance I may have taken once the red mist had come down. :-/ I fully sympathize in your Dad's situation though, and holding back was absolutely the right thing to do under the circumstances. Really sorry to hear about the heart attack, this is something you really don't need after that!! Hope he's well on the way to a full recovery.

[Big Steve]

Not long back had the same thing with my old K reg astra, stole that left the meega, police not
interested. Went looking for it with my two sons & Mr baseball bat, found the car but not the B's
who nicked it, made such a mess of it had to scap it. Pity it was a good cheap runabout

[Varche]

We have been the victims of car theft too over the years. One of the many reasons why we upped sticks for Spain. There is plenty of crime on the coast maybe even as much as in the UK but inland in the country it reminds me of where we lived in England as kids.

One car an auto Carlton CDX was stolen from the barriered carpark at work right outside the window where I worked. The office window was open but I never heard the alarm go or found the car (and crook lock) despite looking very closely at every similar car for years afterwards. It was around the time that a convicted car pincher won the lottery. Of course the insurance company didn't pay us enough . Co incidentally shortly after that I went on holiday to Cyprus and was astonished at how many ex British looking RHD drives were to be seen. e.g. you could see where the tax disc had been taken off and dealers stickers in windows/number plates etc. maybe I am just suspicious.

The funniest experience was with the theft of my brothers Capri which I was looking after at the time. It went missing on the Monday and got a parking ticket the Wednesday in Luton and then got towed to the police pound near the airport.  A policewoman called at my house in the Midlands on the Thursday evening and said your car is at Luton will you go and fetch it? Is it driveable said I, Don't know. Yes I will go. Next day went to work (on the bus) and about six 30 another policeman called at the house to ask if I was going to get my car? Yes in the morning. At 1.30 p.m. the doorbell went again. The first policewoman. We want to know when you are going to get your car? Well said I, I seem to be having a problem with sleep but first thing on Saturday. Great she said and drove off.

Next morning I hitched down to Luton and got there at 12 noon. All I thought to take was the car key and a fiver for a sandwich............  First problem was that I couldn't have the car as I had no ID or car ID. ( I was young and green in those days). To cut a long story short it was 5 p.m. before a policeman drove me down to the pound. He didn't have the keys so we had to break in through the airport car park. There was the Capri and to my great relief it wasn't damaged at all externally. The radio had gone and the battery was flat. Also the exhaust had been badly damaged. The policeman helped me jump start it and off I went.

So we all pay more insurance, spend more on anti theft devices including tracker in my case on each car thereafter.

I hate the fact that the punishment doesn't fit the crime. I would have prisoners working (under supervision) building more prisons. No cigarettes, drugs, mobiles, radios or TV. Prison is far too soft an option in my view. Tough on crime tough on the causes! All I can say is it is a good job I am not in charge.

olive      

[x25xe]

Firstly, I am sorry to hear about your experience Tony.  The levels of thieving scum that are around these days is totally unacceptable.  What is being done about this?  Answer, Nothing.  Police catch them (sometimes) and, if they get to court, some poxy judge who no doubt lives in some mansion in the countryside free of worry about crime, dishes out a totally stupid "sentence".  Usually community service where they sit round drinking and smoking (and no doubt doing drugs as well) all day.

So we all pay more insurance, spend more on anti theft devices including tracker in my case on each car thereafter.

I hate the fact that the punishment doesn't fit the crime. I would have prisoners working (under supervision) building more prisons. No cigarettes, drugs, mobiles, radios or TV. Prison is far too soft an option in my view. Tough on crime tough on the causes! All I can say is it is a good job I am not in charge.

olive      

I could not agree with you more Olive and all the other replies to this thread.  Prison is like a hotel.  I say make it hard and make it tough so that people think twice.  The government are moaning about prisons being full well there is an easy answer to that - build more.  Better still, get an old war ship etc. and anchor it far out to sea.  In the case of nasty criminals (child abusers, murderers, people who beat up old people etc.) then the boat could always be sunk.  Job Done.  I wish that I was in charge sometimes.

Sorry about the above and if it is too inflammatory then please feel free to delete admins!  It is just that, as you can probably tell, crime and the punishment of really gets me going.

Rant over and I will sit on the fence next time!

[Danny]

IMHO a thief is more likely to sh*t themself if caught red handed by the owner forcefully overpowering them, than a cop slapping cuffs in them

[Dave-C]

Really sorry to hear this Jez, it's obviously going to cost a few quid to put the damage right but at least these scum didn't get away with the car. I think I'd have been out the door like a shot armed with a baseball bat and sod the consequences.

This is yet another legacy of the Blair government's soft policies on discipline for kids and youngsters - nobody can touch them anymore and they bloody well know it!!

As Elite Pete commented on last night's Car Wars programme, even when they do catch these scumbags they get a 40 quid fine and a bit of community service - WHAT KIND OF DETERRENT IS THAT??!!

I had used to work for the Probation Service as a Community Service Supervisor,  "Pick 'em up n' paint churches!"  Some of the folks had literally fallen foul of the law through niavety, 50 hrs com svc... Decent family folk!   Others, well, had one young gentleman aged 19, nicked a motor, driving over the south Peak District, took a really bad bend went straight thru a pub full of people...  Not one injury!!!   Miriacles do happen...   He was a complete sh1te and will offend again, we fell out several times during his 100 hrs.........  It's no deterent, they get off on telling their mates that they've got it... JOKE...
DC