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[Lizzie_Zoom]

Posted by Bent Valve Today at 22:33 Wake up man! The pope is a bloke in a dress. nothing more.

Obviously don't agree but at least you have your own opinion and I doubt very much that you'll be in hyde park protesting... it's a pity that others who don't recognise Papal authority want to sabotage it

BTW lizzie I don't suppose any great fan of the reformation is going to be interested in the subject matter 

Thanks 24V for your later apology   THanks Zulu for pointing his error out!

As for that statement you cannot possibly know if I am in favour or against your comments

I posted repeated  because any open debate on this matter  on the OOF is going to become highly charged and emotional, and I just do not believe nowadays (there was a day when I felt differently!!) that the OOF and its members can take it or want it.

I personally just want a peaceful debate, and this subject will never produce that on the OOF, or I suspect elsewhere!

[Nickbat]

Posted by Bent Valve Today at 22:33 Wake up man! The pope is a bloke in a dress. nothing more.

Obviously don't agree but at least you have your own opinion and I doubt very much that you'll be in hyde park protesting... it's a pity that others who don't recognise Papal authority want to sabotage it

BTW lizzie I don't suppose any great fan of the reformation is going to be interested in the subject matter 

Thanks 24V for your later apology   THanks Zulu for pointing his error out!

As for that statement you cannot possibly know if I am in favour or against your comments

I posted repeated  because any open debate on this matter  on the OOF is going to become highly charged and emotional, and I just do not believe nowadays (there was a day when I felt differently!!) that the OOF and its members can take it or want it.

I personally just want a peaceful debate, and this subject will never produce that on the OOF, or I suspect elsewhere!

I agree, Lizzie. I think this thread should be locked. The subject's been argued to death already. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Posted by Bent Valve Today at 22:33 Wake up man! The pope is a bloke in a dress. nothing more.

Obviously don't agree but at least you have your own opinion and I doubt very much that you'll be in hyde park protesting... it's a pity that others who don't recognise Papal authority want to sabotage it

BTW lizzie I don't suppose any great fan of the reformation is going to be interested in the subject matter 

Thanks 24V for your later apology   THanks Zulu for pointing his error out!

As for that statement you cannot possibly know if I am in favour or against your comments

I posted repeated  because any open debate on this matter  on the OOF is going to become highly charged and emotional, and I just do not believe nowadays (there was a day when I felt differently!!) that the OOF and its members can take it or want it.

I personally just want a peaceful debate, and this subject will never produce that on the OOF, or I suspect elsewhere!

I agree, Lizzie. I think this thread should be locked. The subject's been argued to death already. 

Agreed Nick

[24_Valve]

Lizzie wrote:

As for that statement you cannot possibly know if I am in favour or against your comments

Fair point Lizzie shouldn't have made that assumtion, was only because of the avatar 

Anyway can someone Please LOCK this topic, thanks, steve 

[Mysteryman]

Too many 'locked' topics. People should just try and hold a reasoned discussion.
Religion should not be discussed on open forum, it's a recipe for a free-for-all and nobody ends up in a winning position. Politics is nearly as bad, but that doesn't go as deep.

[humbucker]

common misconception; looking at it from the outside in a lot of people oppose this particular pope as opposed to the idea of a pope visiting (or the wider argument about catholocism and its teachings), and others simply cant work out why the taxpayer is picking up the majority of the bill.

anyway, like you say, topic flogged to death (ooh  how topical). 

[Pitchfork]

Too many 'locked' topics. People should just try and hold a reasoned discussion.
Religion should not be discussed on open forum, it's a recipe for a free-for-all and nobody ends up in a winning position. Politics is nearly as bad, but that doesn't go as deep.

There is a difference between opinion & bigotry but unfortunately too many cannot distinguish between the two

[Webby the Bear]

hi guys,

i personally think all religion stinks but fair enough if you believe there's an old man with a long beard who should be worshipped. 

each to his own i'd say. if youre religious dont try and force stuff down my throat and ill extend the same courtesy..... now lets talk omegas

 

[Webby the Bear]

ps zulu, please change your picture back. i loved that cat hahahaa

[24_Valve]

Posted by humbucker Today at 13:57
common misconception; looking at it from the outside in a lot of people oppose this particular pope as opposed to the idea of a pope visiting (or the wider argument about catholocism and its teachings), and others simply cant work out why the taxpayer is picking up the majority of the bill.

anyway, like you say, topic flogged to death (ooh  how topical).

I think you'll find that the tax payer picks up the bill for any State visit whether they are a religious figure or not? May be wrong but thought Vatican City was a Sovereign State?  Anyway the RC church are picking up much of the bill on this one 

As for the "flogged to death" quip, you'd have to have to be a very sick individual to think that's funny. Even if you see Jesus as an ordinary man, why would it be funny for any person to be flogged? Having been a paramedic in London for 15 years I've seen people stabbed, burned, glassed etc. They're not my God but it'd never crossed my mind that it's funny?

[hotel21]

Reasoned debate is healthy but locking at OP's request....