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[Omegatoy]

lol that sounds complicated..... ok, why cant a hgv have a regular 5, 6 or 7 speed box?

Have you every driven a landrover where you have 5x low and 5x high gears =10 then on a truck you have 4low 4high and somtimes a spliter that gives you Half gears so you end up with a choice of 16 gears.
And it's good fun pulling away from traffic lights with only the unit leaving others behind

LOOL, and for power sliding!! but for the traffic light grand prix you need either 6low or 5th high depending on the truck!!

[Omegatoy]

Eaton twin split is the best box ever!!!!! did around half a million miles using them on various ERF, SEDDON ATKINSON, and a few Leylend products, once you got the hang of it you just moved the lever up or down the shift pattern, made such an easyday of it!!
As to new trucks with fully auto boxes, I am definelty not a fan!!! apart from reversing being a pain cos they dont creep which is what you need to manoevre properly, they make you look like a complete amateur when hooking up!! because there is no creep you have to give it gas, fine so it shoots backwards to fast so you let the throttle off, then the weight of the trailer stops the bloody thing again so you have to give it gas, it dont move so more gas it dont move so more gas then it shoots bacwards and smashes onto the pin!!!! nightmare!!
then of course approaching a roundabout you slow down to see if its clear or not in a manual truck you selet the gear appropiate to the speed you are approaching the roundabout, if its clear or you can make it in time to not inconvenience the traffic you go!! not in an auto truck you dont!! blasted thing starts to pull then stops all drive whike it selects what it thinks is the right gear, realises its the wrong gear stops drive and selects another, this leaves you stuck halfway across the roundabout wth irate car drivers blowng the horn cos you stopped them on the roundabout!!! useless blasted auto sludgepumps!!!! then of course the fuel penalty is something else on a truck!!! may only be a mile a gallon, but take that over the average year where a truck will do 150,000 miles at around 7mpg and you can see that the fuel cost is ridiculous!!

And breathe G   

Guessing over-all you don't like them 

I first came across these new fangled boxes on a trip snowboarding in the Alps, as the bus was pulling away could have sworn it was a manual, was only when walking past to get off realised it was an auto shifter.

The manual bus we were having a ding dong with on the way, had us out of the starting box toll booth, but we were heavily laden with snowboarding gear 

actually auto,s on buses make sense, smoother ride for the passengers , virtually impossible to speed in towns cos they are so slow, and with so many different drivers they cant burn the clutches out!!

[tunnie]

Eaton twin split is the best box ever!!!!! did around half a million miles using them on various ERF, SEDDON ATKINSON, and a few Leylend products, once you got the hang of it you just moved the lever up or down the shift pattern, made such an easyday of it!!
As to new trucks with fully auto boxes, I am definelty not a fan!!! apart from reversing being a pain cos they dont creep which is what you need to manoevre properly, they make you look like a complete amateur when hooking up!! because there is no creep you have to give it gas, fine so it shoots backwards to fast so you let the throttle off, then the weight of the trailer stops the bloody thing again so you have to give it gas, it dont move so more gas it dont move so more gas then it shoots bacwards and smashes onto the pin!!!! nightmare!!
then of course approaching a roundabout you slow down to see if its clear or not in a manual truck you selet the gear appropiate to the speed you are approaching the roundabout, if its clear or you can make it in time to not inconvenience the traffic you go!! not in an auto truck you dont!! blasted thing starts to pull then stops all drive whike it selects what it thinks is the right gear, realises its the wrong gear stops drive and selects another, this leaves you stuck halfway across the roundabout wth irate car drivers blowng the horn cos you stopped them on the roundabout!!! useless blasted auto sludgepumps!!!! then of course the fuel penalty is something else on a truck!!! may only be a mile a gallon, but take that over the average year where a truck will do 150,000 miles at around 7mpg and you can see that the fuel cost is ridiculous!!

And breathe G   

Guessing over-all you don't like them 

I first came across these new fangled boxes on a trip snowboarding in the Alps, as the bus was pulling away could have sworn it was a manual, was only when walking past to get off realised it was an auto shifter.

The manual bus we were having a ding dong with on the way, had us out of the starting box toll booth, but we were heavily laden with snowboarding gear 

actually auto,s on buses make sense, smoother ride for the passengers , virtually impossible to speed in towns cos they are so slow, and with so many different drivers they cant burn the clutches out!!

Well thats the thing, my old college bus was an 'old school' auto, as in smooth changes, this new bus (a Vantool Alstrom) changed like a manual, so it had the surges of a manual, felt no smoother than normal, hence i thought it was a manual.

I wish they let me drive it there for a discount 

[Omegatoy]

Eaton twin split is the best box ever!!!!! did around half a million miles using them on various ERF, SEDDON ATKINSON, and a few Leylend products, once you got the hang of it you just moved the lever up or down the shift pattern, made such an easyday of it!!
As to new trucks with fully auto boxes, I am definelty not a fan!!! apart from reversing being a pain cos they dont creep which is what you need to manoevre properly, they make you look like a complete amateur when hooking up!! because there is no creep you have to give it gas, fine so it shoots backwards to fast so you let the throttle off, then the weight of the trailer stops the bloody thing again so you have to give it gas, it dont move so more gas it dont move so more gas then it shoots bacwards and smashes onto the pin!!!! nightmare!!
then of course approaching a roundabout you slow down to see if its clear or not in a manual truck you selet the gear appropiate to the speed you are approaching the roundabout, if its clear or you can make it in time to not inconvenience the traffic you go!! not in an auto truck you dont!! blasted thing starts to pull then stops all drive whike it selects what it thinks is the right gear, realises its the wrong gear stops drive and selects another, this leaves you stuck halfway across the roundabout wth irate car drivers blowng the horn cos you stopped them on the roundabout!!! useless blasted auto sludgepumps!!!! then of course the fuel penalty is something else on a truck!!! may only be a mile a gallon, but take that over the average year where a truck will do 150,000 miles at around 7mpg and you can see that the fuel cost is ridiculous!!

And breathe G   

Guessing over-all you don't like them 

I first came across these new fangled boxes on a trip snowboarding in the Alps, as the bus was pulling away could have sworn it was a manual, was only when walking past to get off realised it was an auto shifter.

The manual bus we were having a ding dong with on the way, had us out of the starting box toll booth, but we were heavily laden with snowboarding gear 

actually auto,s on buses make sense, smoother ride for the passengers , virtually impossible to speed in towns cos they are so slow, and with so many different drivers they cant burn the clutches out!!

Well thats the thing, my old college bus was an 'old school' auto, as in smooth changes, this new bus (a Vantool Alstrom) changed like a manual, so it had the surges of a manual, felt no smoother than normal, hence i thought it was a manual.

I wish they let me drive it there for a discount 

Hmm you sure it aint a preselect semi auto? they can give a surgiing ride depending on the driver!! as to driving it, take the test!! easy!!

[tunnie]

could have been a semi auto, it drove like an auto, never needed to touch gear stick.

It was one of these:

http://www.vanhool.be/home%20en/coaches%20&%20buses/coaches/T9%20range%20Europe/t916astronEN.html

Gave a better ride than the Scania Irizar we had the year before, frustratingly slow, could have easily cruised at 80mph. At 2am at night, who notice? Damn law limiting bus speed

[Lazydocker]

Preselect... There's an experience

[hoofing it]

Preselect... There's an experience

Give me a stick shift any day auto's are for big girls blouses

[Hannah Judes Dad]

sorry guys, forgive my complete lack of knowledge....but....

hgv's can have an auto box??? as in a fully auto, D N R P??

 

Yes they can,but as others have posted the creep that you need when reversing is just not there so it makes you look like a bit of a tool when you increase the revs and start spinning the wheels or accelerating at a great rate of knots.