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[Grumpy]

why don't they give wet and dry Torque Values

Because you're expected to do the job iaw the Maintenance Manual.

If a connection is meant to be lubed, the manual will state this and the
torque loading will be stated with this in mind.

If a connection isn't meant to be lubed, then the torque loading
will be quoted with this in mind.

I don't know what the pukka gen Vauxhall Manual quotes, perhaps
someone who has access to one will say.

[davlad22]

Interesting that the locking nuts were tight as a ducks @rse? Did you watch Cr@p-Fit put the wheels back on? It's kind of known that you shouldn't use an air gun on them, the locking 'thread' will be trashed in no time, so they shouldn't be that tight surely?

As a side note, we were told a little while ago strictly NOT to lose the locking key for our '51 plate omega, not because it's a pain in the arse to sort, but because they don't actually make that pattern/combination/kit anymore!?! Anybody else had this or confirm otherwise.

[VXL V6]

Only had the car a few months so i've never seen who put the wheels on last, personally I would never use kwik fit or any of the nationals, they are overpriced and do a lousy job. I have always used the local fitters, they will get the tyres you want, look after your alloys, torque the bolts correctly and be far far cheaper.

VX can get you a new key if you can give them specific information which is fair enough. Going the route of getting another one because the original is donald ducked now, so hoping a new key, a breaker bar and some WD40 over a week will help get at least some, if not all of them off.

[davlad22]

Best of luck

VX can get you a new key if you can give them specific information which is fair enough.

Now you would think so, but we were 'reliably' informed that one particular locking nut 'combo' (described as a 'series' or something?) was no longer used, couldn't be obtained and was phased out, the one used on our '51 Omega.

May be wrong, hope I am, but just a heads up incase we start having to drill our wheels off  

[VXL V6]

Right, picked up the replacement locking key today, have managed to get one locking bolt off but the key is 'dissolving' again.... looking at the locking bolt I have managed to remove I can see that it's corroded on the first few threads (nearest the head).

I've sprayed yet more WD40 on them again and will try again later. I guess one out is one less to have to pay for!

Looking at the design it's only the collar that is free spinning, if that's smashed the rather daylights out of gently prised off then it may be possible to get a socket on......

Any recomendations for replacement locking bolts?

[TheBoy]

Any recomendations for replacement locking bolts?

Yeah, a normal rather bolt

[VXL V6]

Yep I'm thinking that way.... could put one of those red plastic covers on it so it looks like a locking bolt!

[duggs]

AND while we're on the subject...

DON'T buy the cheap locking wheel nuts advertised on fleabay..

They do the job BUT the metal used to make them is NOT very hard or strong.
Both the nut on the wheel and the security section are rounding off and i've only used them twice.

[alan2450]

Had the same problem on a 306, could not get any of the locking nuts off.  Took it to a local tyre fitter who placed a sliding T bar socket on the nut and as he applyed pressure his mate quickly and repeatly tapped the end of the T bar with a lump hammer, all nuts off within minutes.  Replaced them with normal nuts and only cost me £5 all in.   Worth a try!

[VXL V6]

Yep, been given similar advice tonight... bloody big hammer and something on the end of the locknut... trouble is, with a hammer in my hand I might loose my temper with it  

Thanks

[Andy B]

.......
Any recomendations for replacement locking bolts?

The new style Vauxhall locking bolts are far better, and aren't very expensive - £16 seems to ding a dong.