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Help! Cams 3 & 4 out of alignment with EACH OTHER
« on: 07 December 2008, 12:36:32 »

I'm right in the middle of fitting a new timing belt - following the DVD evry step of the way.

When it comes to fitting the belt to cams 3 & 4, i've found that the slignment mark on the belt fits perfectly on the sprocket for 3, but the alignment mark for 4 is one tooth short.

Here's some pictures:

cams one and two - fine!




Cams three and four - GRRR.




I've checked with the Alignment tools, and cam 3 is slightly retarded, and cam 4 is slightly advanced. as a result, I can line up the marking on 3 just fine, but 4 is one tooth short with a slack belt. I cannot pull the belt tight enough to get it to line up!

Cam 3:



Cam 4:



So, in short, how do I bring cam 4 back a touch to line it up? is it simply a case of slackening off the sprocket bolt and rotating it slightly? What's the torque value to tighten it back up?

Thanks in advance for the help - I'm sitting outside, unable to continue without advice!


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Re: Help! Cams 3 & 4 out of alignment with EACH OTHER
« Reply #1 on: 07 December 2008, 12:40:29 »

it's a case of putting the belt on half a tooth out retarded and then using the adjusters (there should be a little bit of slack between cams 3 and cams 4 so that you can use the adjusters if this makes sense)
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Re: Help! Cams 3 & 4 out of alignment with EACH OTHER
« Reply #2 on: 07 December 2008, 12:41:30 »

Right....insert a flat blade screw driver betweenthe belt on cam three and the rear backing plate.

Now remove the lower idler (bottom right) and move the belt over cam 4 by one tooth.

Sometimes you need to move the cams slightly with the locing tool still fitted to make it easier.

Once you have done the above.....move the screw driver to hold the belt on for cam 4 and re-fit the lower idler
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Re: Help! Cams 3 & 4 out of alignment with EACH OTHER
« Reply #3 on: 07 December 2008, 12:42:43 »

not quite with you, sorry.

I'd understand about putting the belt on half a tooth out, but it would only be out for cam four - so as a result there would always be slack between the cams - too much slack, I think!

Would this mean that cam 4 would always be advanced related to cam 3?
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Re: Help! Cams 3 & 4 out of alignment with EACH OTHER
« Reply #4 on: 07 December 2008, 12:45:12 »

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not quite with you, sorry.

I'd understand about putting the belt on half a tooth out, but it would only be out for cam four - so as a result there would always be slack between the cams - too much slack, I think!

Would this mean that cam 4 would always be advanced related to cam 3?


As per my answer above....the belt should be tight between cam 3 and 4....there is currently quite a bit of slack in it so move the belt over a tooth on cam 4
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Re: Help! Cams 3 & 4 out of alignment with EACH OTHER
« Reply #5 on: 07 December 2008, 12:49:46 »

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not quite with you, sorry.

I'd understand about putting the belt on half a tooth out, but it would only be out for cam four - so as a result there would always be slack between the cams - too much slack, I think!

Would this mean that cam 4 would always be advanced related to cam 3?


As per my answer above....the belt should be tight between cam 3 and 4....there is currently quite a bit of slack in it so move the belt over a tooth on cam 4

GOT IT!

thanks, mark - I left the locking tool in place, wedged the belt in place on cam3 with a screwdriver, and shimmied the belt onto cam 4 in the right position by sheer will and a tiny turn of the cam.

Perfect - thanks for the help!
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Re: Help! Cams 3 & 4 out of alignment with EACH OTHER
« Reply #6 on: 07 December 2008, 13:38:59 »

Excellent....should be easy enough from here on in!
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