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And knowing our local vx dealer he would probably have a better chance at getting the Titanic to sail again!!

[Christian]

Ah right in that case!  :-/

Its a big risk aint it when drilling but if its the only way then be carefull  

[ngrainqey]

Ah right in that case!  :-/

Its a big risk aint it when drilling but if its the only way then be carefull  

lol be careful?
wish me luck you mean, not many drills really touch hardened wheel bolts and i dont have any big solid carbide drills (and yes i know what your thinking...how did i get any solid carbide drills...for free )

[ngrainqey]

And knowing our local vx dealer he would probably have a better chance at getting the Titanic to sail again!!

vx dealers are about as much use as a chocolate teapot! they do have a useful computer
shows how all the bits go together lol!

[Andy B]

The spinning ring will just shear off with a screwdriver & hammer and then you can force a socket on, it will split but will do the job fairly quickly and won't damage the alloy.

From your description of 'flower shaped' I think you've got what I'd call the 'cake cutter' locking bolts ie the later locking bolts that Vauxhall would sell you now. If so, you find that the spinning ring is a lot more substantial than the ring on the early lock bolt with the 3 holes in the face. The spinning ring on my early bolts split a piece of **** with a slim chisel, I doubt the later type would be as easy to split.  
You could always act numb and ask at your local ATS/etc as they'll likely have a set of lock bolt removers + a windy gun.
http://www.sh"My Naff Code Reader".co.uk/Sealey_Locking_Wheel_Nut_Removal_Set_2pc_-23051168-p!.shtml
Machine Mart do a similar set
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/5-piece-bolt-grip-set-expansion-set/path/socket-sets-sockets-tool-sets

[ngrainqey]

lol i have both an early set of locking wheel nuts and later (iv got the key for im guessing the later ones which is like a wavey line in the middle of a chunk of bolt, the ones on the 2.6 are like a actual flower head shape that say a 19mm socket could fit round but it has the outer ring to stop you using just a socket if that makes sense)

anyway andy wouldnt those removal tools need you to have already removed the spinning loop?
thanks

[Andy B]

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anyway andy wouldnt those removal tools need you to have already removed the spinning loop?
thanks

ATS managed to remove an early type complete with ring with their set. I removed the ring from the other 3 before they attacked them though.

[ngrainqey]

im suprised at that tbh, that ring just spins nicely round on mine..minus some bearings to help it run smoother than silk

i'll try t*atting it as it were with a screwdriver or chisel between the outer ring and inner wheel bolt and see what it does

thanks-im off to bed now

[bighed]

Cant be as bad as Peugeot My mate just took his 206 to a garage for new tires. They lost his locking wheel nut tool. Told him to ring peugeot for a new one and they would pay. Fair enough he thought. Upon ringing peugeot he gets told that each tool is different and that he would need the 4 digit code off his original one. He is finding that part QUITE difficult

[Elite Pete]

im suprised at that tbh, that ring just spins nicely round on mine..minus some bearings to help it run smoother than silk

i'll try t*atting it as it were with a screwdriver or chisel between the outer ring and inner wheel bolt and see what it does

thanks-im off to bed now

If ithey are the later Vauxhall type as Andy says, you will probably end up having to drill them

[ngrainqey]

im suprised at that tbh, that ring just spins nicely round on mine..minus some bearings to help it run smoother than silk

i'll try t*atting it as it were with a screwdriver or chisel between the outer ring and inner wheel bolt and see what it does

thanks-im off to bed now

If ithey are the later Vauxhall type as Andy says, you will probably end up having to drill them

'dangle berries' to drilling them pete... i'll try smackin em first