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Re: rubbish handbrake
« Reply #15 on: 05 March 2009, 20:23:59 »

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What most people fail to realise is that when the handbrake is applied it is generally onto a hot disc / drum, as this then cools it will obviously contract thereby the shoes will not be exerting so much pressure.

The Vectra B issue was blamed on 'an insufficient hanbrake cable diameter' officially, but then how many of us pull the handbrake on that extra notch on a slope just to be sure which then stretches the cable no matter what it's diameter.

Not on the Miggy ... "normal" brakes are the discs .. hand brake is the drum .. so unless you have been driving with the handbrake on (or doing J-turns ?? ) the handbrake drum is cold, and should never get hot as it should always be stationary whilst applied ...  :)

Omega (along with most other vehicles with rear disc brakes) have the drum and disc as one unit, the drum is inbound at the axle mounting of the disc, therefore the whole disc/drum heats up with normal brake application.
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Re: rubbish handbrake
« Reply #16 on: 05 March 2009, 21:35:04 »

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Its also key to trip the setup down and check the pivots etc on the actuator arm as they can sieze if not used (note to all auto drivers!)
I think I know who that's aimed at ::)

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Re: rubbish handbrake
« Reply #17 on: 06 March 2009, 08:15:15 »

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What most people fail to realise is that when the handbrake is applied it is generally onto a hot disc / drum, as this then cools it will obviously contract thereby the shoes will not be exerting so much pressure.

The Vectra B issue was blamed on 'an insufficient hanbrake cable diameter' officially, but then how many of us pull the handbrake on that extra notch on a slope just to be sure which then stretches the cable no matter what it's diameter.

Not on the Miggy ... "normal" brakes are the discs .. hand brake is the drum .. so unless you have been driving with the handbrake on (or doing J-turns ?? ) the handbrake drum is cold, and should never get hot as it should always be stationary whilst applied ...  :)

Omega (along with most other vehicles with rear disc brakes) have the drum and disc as one unit, the drum is inbound at the axle mounting of the disc, therefore the whole disc/drum heats up with normal brake application. :)

Yes, and as the disc cools it contracts onto the shoes making the braking even better!


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Re: rubbish handbrake
« Reply #18 on: 07 March 2009, 13:46:29 »

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i've had it adjusted three times now with new pads,fitting kits,disks and back plates it just does'nt seem to hold the car on a bit of a slope cant pull it up any futher no that it comes up to high now like when it was first done. What do you think? :'(


So its time to get the job done properly then!

Never seen a garage set a handbrake up correctly yet (on almost any car!)

See here:

 http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
Shilton Garage just north of Coventry managed to do mine fine - 3 to 4 clicks for fully on and it now doesn't move.  Releases fully as well...
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Re: rubbish handbrake
« Reply #19 on: 07 March 2009, 13:51:36 »

would that mean that the insignia, with its electronic handbrake, wont let you apply the handbrake whilst moving (thus stopping people doing handbrake turns :P)
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Re: rubbish handbrake
« Reply #20 on: 07 March 2009, 14:56:20 »

I had new Brake Disks, shoes and pads last week, all fitted by Mark and adjusted.

Can honestly say I've never been in a car with a better handbrake.

Holds it anywhere

Will stop the car in not bad time from 30ish.

Very impressed.

If yours can't do that, either something needs replacing or adjusting properly.

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Re: rubbish handbrake
« Reply #21 on: 07 March 2009, 15:49:31 »

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would that mean that the insignia, with its electronic handbrake, wont let you apply the handbrake whilst moving (thus stopping people doing handbrake turns :P)
Although, particularly my MV6, Omega handbrakes are effective, I find it's not good for handrake turns.  It seems smaller cars with rear drums that you can 'snatch' easily (Omega needs a heck of a pull to snatch both rears) far better for '1 point U-turns'. Apparently ::).
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