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[tunnie]

Right,  didn't do Powersounder today, cleaned out scuttle drains both sides, the passenger side one was empty anyway, a bit of sticky gunk, but managed to get my hand down to the grommet part, no gunk in there thank god, pollen filter was pretty disgusting! lots of crap inbetween each of the filaments, i only changed it 6 months ago! air filter is still clean as the day i bought it, but then it is a K&N filter and cost me £30! you gets what you pays for i suppose
just put new pollen filter in and already the car smells fresher inside, also squirted all interior glass with HOLTS Anti-Mist spray.. will see how i get on with all this

Ohhh dear 

So instead of using the air intake system that took £100,000's to create a bespoke system for that engine, scooping in nice cold air from underneath the car, you stuck a K&N on which sucks in warm air from inside the bay? Thus reducing power, and mpg?

Chap did not say he bought a cone filter, simply that he has a K&N fitted.  They also do panel filters (got one in my garage) which still utilises the original ducting and cold air etc....   

Potential problem, as you are aware, is that the oils used may well cause some havock with the MAF as it is a bit insensitive to oils on the filament.

As to misting up, keeping the inside of the car dry as well as keeping the air into the car dry, hence the pollen filter change, is the key....   

Good point, well presented 

[Wayne]

Tunnie! its a standard panel filter! not a Cone filter!
dont jump to conclusions 

[Wayne]

ang on, is this why my Temperature gauge always go pretty damn hot?
its a normal K&N panel filter, you reckon i should replace it with a bog standard one then?

it simply fits on top of the air filter housing like a normal one would, exactly the same size and everything

[tunnie]

ang on, is this why my Temperature gauge always go pretty damn hot?
its a normal K&N panel filter, you reckon i should replace it with a bog standard one then?

it simply fits on top of the air filter housing like a normal one would, exactly the same size and everything

How hot?

[Wayne]

here's my Air Filter (Panel Version)
http://www.knfilters.com/filtercharger.htm

[Wayne]

sits between 90 and 100, always seems hot to me

normally happens when sitting in traffic or just round town etc

bloody engine always seems RED hot, also just noticed my coolant level has dropped an inch or so, already had the HBV changed 1 month ago
hope it aint the friggin suspected HG problem again!

[tunnie]

95 is normal for V6, should rise to 96/97 in town, fans kick in, and should drop back to 95

[Wayne]

oh good, thats great news, i have always been worried about high the temp gauge reads....phew!
its has gone to 100 before, and fans kick in and knock it down to just below 95

[tunnie]

should never go past 100, for the cost (£10 ish) GM filters are fine, mines been in 2 years and due a change, but still looks fine

[TheBoy]

I tend to stick to GM filters - they have much larger surface area than patterns.

[Wayne]

well, had no problem with the K&N filter, fits really nice like my old GM filters i used to get,  yes it has the oil on it, but what symptoms would i get because of this oil stuff on it?
if i get any of em, then i will change it... mines been on for 2 years now, its as clean as a whistle, infact it looks brand new!

[TheBoy]

well, had no problem with the K&N filter, fits really nice like my old GM filters i used to get,  yes it has the oil on it, but what symptoms would i get because of this oil stuff on it?
if i get any of em, then i will change it... mines been on for 2 years now, its as clean as a whistle, infact it looks brand new!

The oil can kill the MAF sensor.

[Wayne]

sorry mate, whats the MAF sensor and what does it do?
how do you know if its going, symptoms?

[TheBoy]

tells ecu how much air is going it engine.  the oil contaminates it. kills it.

[Wayne]

so best to change air filter tomorrow then?