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Do I need shocks, or springs?
« on: 09 February 2010, 21:14:11 »

I've said before - I have a huge gas tank in the boot, and basically the bag end is sagging too low - way too low.

Is it a pair of shocks, or springs, that I need, to correct the ride height?

Any benefit or possibility of using estate ones or simelar to get ride height back up?

Unfortunately suspension is not my area  :'(
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #1 on: 09 February 2010, 21:17:55 »

Springs will raise the height, shock absorbers simply absorb the shocks caused by the road surface/conditions.
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #2 on: 09 February 2010, 21:20:38 »

imho longer springs, but whatever you use will effect the rear balance of the car on twisty  roads :-/

and also heating and stretching springs can make them longer..but not sure about their service life-time..
« Last Edit: 09 February 2010, 21:23:42 by cem_devecioglu »
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #3 on: 09 February 2010, 21:20:56 »

you can get spacers for when towing caravans they sit under the spring
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #4 on: 09 February 2010, 21:32:53 »

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you can get spacers for when towing caravans they sit under the spring

True, although I'm looking for a more permanent fix :y
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #5 on: 09 February 2010, 21:35:01 »

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you can get spacers for when towing caravans they sit under the spring

True, although I'm looking for a more permanent fix :y


Elite with self-levelling ???  Works a treat ..      full or empty .. no difference .. :)

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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #6 on: 09 February 2010, 22:29:59 »

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you can get spacers for when towing caravans they sit under the spring

True, although I'm looking for a more permanent fix :y


Elite with self-levelling ???  Works a treat ..      full or empty .. no difference .. :)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i had that thought on another thread, could it be retro fitted?

vx list numerous differant springs due to extra load specs such as hearse and armoured car etc. only problem there is vx prices for springs of course, why they are so steep i have no idea.
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #7 on: 09 February 2010, 22:58:12 »

I think a pair of Monroe Ride Levellers would solve your problem.They are shockers that incorporate an inflateable air sac.You simply pump up the rear suspension to the proper ground clearance and are a fairly easy diy,as they simply replace your exsisting shocks. I have had them fitted to assist with caravan noseweight loads on estates as well as a loaded boot and they were well up to the job.Google to "monroe ride levellers" thats where all the info is. :y :y
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #8 on: 10 February 2010, 00:45:01 »

OOPS :o Sorry just been told Monroe Ride Levelers no longer in production and checked the website this sadly seems to be correct :'(.Would a pair of VX self leveller shocks do connected via a T piece pumped up and locked off with a schrader valve? Hope this helps :y
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #9 on: 10 February 2010, 01:17:22 »


What! No more Monroe Ride Levellers. Hells Teeth!!  :o
We're all chuffin' Dooomed!!!  :'(
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #10 on: 10 February 2010, 05:13:10 »

Perhaps you should not have opted for such a great clunking tank? Bigger is not always better or more cost effective.
A permanent fix sadly means uprated VX priced springs and uprated shockers! Easy as that. You could also take the automatic self levelling method but to retro fit it would be very expensive.
The other option is to use rubber donut spring assisters which tend to be used by caravanners and are excellent! They cost me about 30 notes and about an hour to fit. I have used them for years and they do not radically affect the handling as uprated springs would.
Note! The donuts sit between the coils of the spring - NOT underneath it.
They also sell steel secondary coil spring assisters which fit inside of the standard springs I think.
Get the donuts from here;
http://www.springassisters.co.uk/menu.htm
Mine were the GE15 for a 1998 (R) 2.5 Elite V6 auto saloon.
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Re: Do I need shocks, or springs?
« Reply #11 on: 10 February 2010, 08:55:36 »

KYB do a heavy duty spring which should help.
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