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Re: Bushes
« Reply #15 on: 24 May 2010, 23:40:11 »

if you are doing it yourself and the failed bush is cheaper than the wishbone, then go ahead spent your time changing it.

(time is money)

merc sprinter ball joints are a mot testers favourite, garage i use for tests used to change the ball joints only untill they put a hole in the top of the garage.(still letting in water) now they bill for the whole arm, cheaper in the long run. :)
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Re: Bushes
« Reply #16 on: 24 May 2010, 23:41:47 »

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This means a drift used must be within the 0.5 mm or so of the bush diameter with a recess in order avoid damaging the bush during fitting. Removal is not so critical as its buggered anyway. ......

I pressed out the old bushes from my Senator's wishbones. I had the facilities & materials at work at the time to make suitable tooling to press them out. But as you say, because these wishbones are only pressed fabrications and welded here & there, they are very easily bent. I'd to make do-nuts to go underneath to support the wishbone while I pressed the bushes in and out. That was years ago & the drifts & 'do-nuts' are long gone.  ;)
...and yes i'd forgotton bending the wishbone.

With hindsight would you repeat the process with the risks involved, or buy the complete unit? also baring in mind Mr Hagon will be paying a labour hourly rate possibly.

Having said all that, as Kevin said earlier, Dazzler pressed his, so doable, but cost effective when your paying a garage? And i believe Kevin would have pressed a spare set of wishbones, then only fitted them once happy they where correct.
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Re: Bushes
« Reply #17 on: 25 May 2010, 23:18:10 »

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But could it be that the garage is working to its own experience with general workshop practices on a wide range if cars.
What works on one car does not necessarily work on another, there are a few storys on here of bush pressing attempts failing as you'll notice that the edge of the front bush is extremely narrow with the centre spacer sitting proud.

This means a drift used must be within the 0.5 mm or so of the bush diameter with a recess in order avoid damaging the bush during fitting. Removal is not so critical as its buggered anyway.

WIM looked into pressing bushes but found the time taken to press bushes ment the it was cheaper to buy a pair of lemforders and fit those. A clue i think.

However, if you know of a place that can press bushes cost effectively then please let us know, we'll keep him busy i'm sure. :y
When I find out more, I'll post again  :y.
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Re: Bushes
« Reply #18 on: 25 May 2010, 23:29:11 »

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With hindsight would you repeat the process with the risks involved, or buy the complete unit? also baring in mind Mr Hagon will be paying a labour hourly rate possibly. ...

Risks? What risks? It was me doing the job.  ;)  ;)  ;) If I had the same facilties I had then, I'd do it again, but I rarely get others to do jobs I could do myself anyway. I bought OE wishbones for this car, & because of time, I asked the garage next to where I worked to fit them for me. I asked for the old wishbones back with thoughts of replacing the bushes when I could, but the penalty for not doing the job myself, was that the halfwits used a fork type splitter for the bottom ball joints, buggering up the rubber gaitors!  >:(
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Re: Bushes
« Reply #19 on: 02 June 2010, 23:22:06 »

Spoke to the garage today and it sounds like (me being very non-mechanical) nothing to do with wishbone but something completely different albeit still suspension related.

Part numbers are 9156605/9156604 and show on the invoice as DAMPER BUSHING.

So in the end not a solution to pressing bushes into the wishbone  :P.
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