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is this a bad sign?
« on: 02 September 2010, 19:32:19 »
Got cam covers off today
First greeted by this,


yes that is a river of crud in the bottom
cam covers look like this

cams were ok,oil seems normal,if not a little too black,
heads were done at 69k,back in 2003 at a cost £665,ouch,glad didnt have it then

yup that is gaffer tape over the inlets,inlet manifold full of crud too,
So any thoughts or verdicts?this been seen before i hope :'(
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Re: is this a bad sign?
« Reply #1 on: 02 September 2010, 19:35:32 »
hopefully just mayo from short trips...

what state is the dipstick in?

clean it up, clean the breathers, and some short duration oil changes, using GM Semi Synth oil ( some other oils are very prone to mayo, GM is better than most)
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« Reply #2 on: 02 September 2010, 19:39:53 »
dipstick a little cruddy high up,ok lower down,both cam covers exact same,so can't imagine both heads going,so maybe just short trips,just gonna have fun getting that intake out to empty it, ;D
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« Reply #3 on: 02 September 2010, 20:00:11 »
bottom of intake like that does worry me,must be a couple inches deep of crud,that can't be right?haven't drained it yet,if thats milky too means heads have had it?
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Re: is this a bad sign?
« Reply #4 on: 02 September 2010, 20:03:19 »
unusual for water to get into a v6 engine, normally leaks externally.

Where did you buy it?

If its had lots of stop / starts and shunts round a forecourt, that can do it.

remind me the exact history to your knowledge.....
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« Reply #5 on: 02 September 2010, 20:08:03 »
just read your last few posts...and see its barely moved in a year....

its gonna need a very good service after standing like that.

ALL filters inc fuel etc
breathers
plugs etc which I guess you are doing, before you even think about brakes etc....

I wouldnt be too worried yet, once youve got fresh oil & filter in, get it running, get it hot, do 100-200 miles, and do another oil & filter change, and again in another 500 miles, or sooner if it needs.

Looks to me like that car needs servicing, then using properly.

98 MV6's do seem to have more HG issues than most the others for some reason, but normally an external water weep in the passenger rear corner of the engine.

This looks more like neglect to me.
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« Reply #6 on: 02 September 2010, 20:11:01 »
I bought it here in orkney couple days ago,been here a couple of years,last owner just a kid,so a lot of little runs before it was laid up in feb,originally came from merseyside area,don't know much else,except a couple service receipts,receipts for headgaskets,old mots,last mot ran out may this year,done in 2009 reading 114k,now only reads 116k,heads were done at 69k,no advisories for last mot
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« Reply #7 on: 02 September 2010, 20:13:32 »
Crikey.  Did the previous owner live near a deep ford? (no not the swear word).
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« Reply #8 on: 02 September 2010, 20:15:15 »
hmmm interesting the heads have been done before, £1 to 1p that was a mis-diagnosis, but depending on parts used, could affect longevity afterwards  :-/
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« Reply #9 on: 02 September 2010, 20:15:24 »
no,but it does rain here, ;DALOT,
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« Reply #10 on: 02 September 2010, 20:17:36 »
well at the price and 8 hrs labour wasn't cheap rubbish they used,but couldnt say,was £665 bk in 2003,heads timing belt and waterpump all at once
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« Reply #11 on: 02 September 2010, 20:38:39 »
Was there not another guy on here from Orkney? seem to remember he had 2 miggy's,a green Elite? or was it Shetland?
Or am i just tripping?  ;D
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« Reply #12 on: 02 September 2010, 20:40:16 »
even with all that said....I think I would be going for the major service, and take it from there, given that last year I dont think what youve shown is conclusive.  Compression test may show more...

Good luck with it  :y
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« Reply #13 on: 02 September 2010, 20:57:47 »
also to add it won't stay running,cuts out as soon as foots off,though maybe cause so much crud in intake,was very little oil in plug wells
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