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[feeutfo]

you can always isolate a cone filter either inside appropriate size air box or install a plastic/alu isolation chamber with a dedicated cold air feed going to it. otherwise not a lot of point. they look shit too. stick with the panel filter 

....er, has it not already got an air box? And a cold air feed going to it? Just proves the point. Surely? 

no, the idea is to provide an additional cold air feed or reroute the existing one. and a cone filter/open induction kit doesn't usually sit inside a partition or airbox; theyre usually left exposed in the engine bay sucking in all that hot air, which as we know is daft on these engines.

sealed induction kits are ok on the v6, improvements of 1 - 5 bhp and smoother acceleration have been claimed from the cold air feed mod.

Sorry mate, but that's the biggest load of 'dangle berries' I've ever seen.

The stock intake is not restrictive in any way. Plenum, throttle bodys, intake ducting are all, well, too big for this engine in effect. Biggest restriction is said to be the exhaust manifold which runs a plenum design to achieve a low torque low rpm tune. It does not need extra air flow on a normally aspirated set up.

The stock panel is not restrictive either. So why on earth fit a cone filter at all? Let alone fit one inside an air box which the car already has anyway? Plus, if oiled, it will destroy the maf.....?

I'm all up for tinkering with stuff, but that's just silly.  :-?

[humbucker]

no need to be rude chris. if you read back you'll see i said in my earlier message a cone filter is a bad idea on these engines, i was not promoting the idea. sealed induction kits have been used to a good effect on these v6 engines, albeit not necessarily in omega application (vectra, cavalier, calibra etc which have different routing and inlet manifold design).

[feeutfo]

no need to be rude chris. if you read back you'll see i said in my earlier message a cone filter is a bad idea on these engines, i was not promoting the idea. sealed induction kits have been used to a good effect on these v6 engines, albeit not necessarily in omega application (vectra, cavalier, calibra etc which have different routing and inlet manifold design).

Nothing rude there mate, talking about the product not your good self. But do accept my appologies non the less.

[Kevin Wood]

It's also worth bearing in mind that K&N style filters are oiled for a reason! They don't have fine enough filter media to trap dust, so the oil is required to ensure incoming dust binds itself to the filter.

Without regular oiling you are allowing contaminants into your engine. With oil you risk killing the MAF. Not a useful modification for this engine, IMHO. The standard air filter is perfectly adequate.

Kevin

[humbucker]

Nothing rude there mate, talking about the product not your good self. But do accept my appologies non the less.

no probs, crossed wires. 

With oil you risk killing the MAF

is this a common problem when using an oiled panel filter?

[Kevin Wood]

is this a common problem when using an oiled panel filter?

There have certainly been instances..

Whether you could get away with oiling the filter sparingly I don't know. I suspect most probably don't get cleaned and re-oiled regularly enough so don't exhibit the problem!

Kevin