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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #60 on: 21 February 2008, 07:43:55 »

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Hey Theolodian,

 Why not got for a MR2, mid engine RWD lots of bolt on goodies or the MX5, front engine/rear wheel drive, again lots of bolt on goodies and you can lower a V8 under the bonnet, if you are brave enough to do so  :o, it has been done on the other side of the pond with a 350 GM unit
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I like the MR2, but the Elise would be more special.  Neither one of them has rear seats though.

We call the MX5 the Miata, and the V8 one the Monster Miata.  :y  I don't fit in it though.  ::)
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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #61 on: 21 February 2008, 09:00:15 »

I would never touch a TVR with a TVR designed engine in it.....now a nice Rover V8 based Griffith....

And MX5's are a bit to 'hairdresser' in image for me!

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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #62 on: 21 February 2008, 09:16:42 »

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I would never touch a TVR with a TVR designed engine in it.....now a nice Rover V8 based Griffith....

Yeah, an engine swap would be assumed.  I would just like to enjoy it until at least August before tearing it apart.  :)
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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #63 on: 21 February 2008, 09:20:17 »

The other thing that TVR's are renowned for is gearboxes dying, on a number of models they use the massively over rated T5 gearbox and they tend to eat them....
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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #64 on: 21 February 2008, 09:34:55 »

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The other thing that TVR's are renowned for is gearboxes dying, on a number of models they use the massively over rated T5 gearbox and they tend to eat them....
OK, thanks.  I'll have to do more research on what engines and gearboxes would be good to use.  I know that there are easier, but I'm really tempted by the RS4 engine.  Just my quirky nature I guess.  ::)
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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #65 on: 21 February 2008, 11:07:23 »

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The other thing that TVR's are renowned for is gearboxes dying, on a number of models they use the massively over rated T5 gearbox and they tend to eat them....
OK, thanks.  I'll have to do more research on what engines and gearboxes would be good to use.  I know that there are easier, but I'm really tempted by the RS4 engine.  Just my quirky nature I guess.  ::)

 The only trouble with the RS4 engine is going to costly to buy and run, but if this is the sort of engine you are after why not a E39 M5 V8  :y
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« Reply #66 on: 21 February 2008, 12:38:24 »

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The other thing that TVR's are renowned for is gearboxes dying, on a number of models they use the massively over rated T5 gearbox and they tend to eat them....
OK, thanks.  I'll have to do more research on what engines and gearboxes would be good to use.  I know that there are easier, but I'm really tempted by the RS4 engine.  Just my quirky nature I guess.  ::)

 The only trouble with the RS4 engine is going to costly to buy and run, but if this is the sort of engine you are after why not a E39 M5 V8  :y
Not sure what you mean.  More expensive to buy initially than some maybe, but at just over 2K it is cheaper than building a nice V8 with fuel injection.  Not familiar with the E39 V8, but many of the 90's BMW engines have bore wear issues (and don't even get TB started).
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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #67 on: 21 February 2008, 14:04:57 »

i see this lotus at the hillingdon car show last yr,  was some real nice ars there, loved the lotuses, especially the elans,

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj182/richierich1961/DSC00057.jpg
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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #68 on: 21 February 2008, 18:40:39 »

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I would never touch a TVR with a TVR designed engine in it.....now a nice Rover V8 based Griffith....

And MX5's are a bit to 'hairdresser' in image for me!
 :)It's a shame the MX5 got tagged with that image. 15 years ago you were a tw*t if you drove a Capri but they're considered "Retro" now so they came through it. The MX5 does'nt deserve the hairdresser tag as it's a cracking little car. I had an early one years ago. The chassis,balance etc was set up perfectly for long sweeping drifts, you really get feedback from these & can feel what they're doing making for some spirited driving. I'm not a lover of cabriolets but MX5's were a car in their own right. not a stock 1.1 with upgraded everything. You also had the Mazda reliability. Inspired by the Lotus Elan, i reckon the Japs got it right.
     Hope it loses it's "Essex Girl" image 'cos i luv 'em! (&MX5's) :P

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« Reply #69 on: 21 February 2008, 20:13:01 »

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I would never touch a TVR with a TVR designed engine in it.....now a nice Rover V8 based Griffith....

And MX5's are a bit to 'hairdresser' in image for me!
 :)It's a shame the MX5 got tagged with that image. 15 years ago you were a tw*t if you drove a Capri but they're considered "Retro" now so they came through it. The MX5 does'nt deserve the hairdresser tag as it's a cracking little car. I had an early one years ago. The chassis,balance etc was set up perfectly for long sweeping drifts, you really get feedback from these & can feel what they're doing making for some spirited driving. I'm not a lover of cabriolets but MX5's were a car in their own right. not a stock 1.1 with upgraded everything. You also had the Mazda reliability. Inspired by the Lotus Elan, i reckon the Japs got it right.
     Hope it loses it's "Essex Girl" image 'cos i luv 'em! (&MX5's) :P


I agree. One of the guys who works at my sponsoring company has recently bought one as he's moved down to the borders so does a lot of B road driving now. It's got me thinking -- I'm not keen on the image myself, but I've heard nothing but good things handling wise. It would take a lot of getting used to switching from a large, long V8 engined 2-door coupe to a tiny 1.8 coupe, even though both are front engined, RWD.

The thing about the BMW is you can drift it even in the dry, but you need to give it a fair bit of beans due to the 265 profile rear tyres being a bit too grippy. Something that slides much more easily, and has much less inertia when it does start to slide will be much more fun I think. The thing that would piss me off though is the lack of straight line acceleration -- it might be light but there's no substitute for cubic capacity!
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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #70 on: 21 February 2008, 21:40:09 »

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I would never touch a TVR with a TVR designed engine in it.....now a nice Rover V8 based Griffith....

And MX5's are a bit to 'hairdresser' in image for me!
 :)It's a shame the MX5 got tagged with that image. 15 years ago you were a tw*t if you drove a Capri but they're considered "Retro" now so they came through it. The MX5 does'nt deserve the hairdresser tag as it's a cracking little car. I had an early one years ago. The chassis,balance etc was set up perfectly for long sweeping drifts, you really get feedback from these & can feel what they're doing making for some spirited driving. I'm not a lover of cabriolets but MX5's were a car in their own right. not a stock 1.1 with upgraded everything. You also had the Mazda reliability. Inspired by the Lotus Elan, i reckon the Japs got it right.
     Hope it loses it's "Essex Girl" image 'cos i luv 'em! (&MX5's) :P


I agree. One of the guys who works at my sponsoring company has recently bought one as he's moved down to the borders so does a lot of B road driving now. It's got me thinking -- I'm not keen on the image myself, but I've heard nothing but good things handling wise. It would take a lot of getting used to switching from a large, long V8 engined 2-door coupe to a tiny 1.8 coupe, even though both are front engined, RWD.

The thing about the BMW is you can drift it even in the dry, but you need to give it a fair bit of beans due to the 265 profile rear tyres being a bit too grippy. Something that slides much more easily, and has much less inertia when it does start to slide will be much more fun I think. The thing that would piss me off though is the lack of straight line acceleration -- it might be light but there's no substitute for cubic capacity!
The Boxster also fits that description.  Hairdresser car and slow as Christmas but drifts nice and gently.
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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #71 on: 22 February 2008, 11:38:35 »

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It's a shame the MX5 got tagged with that image.

I agree too. Mrs. KW has Mk2 1.8 MX 5 and it's a fantastic car to drive. The chassis is just sublime. The hairdresser image just evaporates when you get behind the wheel of one.

It's the one car I've ever driven that you can just jump in and chuck around to your heart's content. No need to learn its' vices because it has none. Totally controllable and plenty of feedback.

Mechanically they're bomb proof and relatively easy to work on. In 100k ours has needed a new coil pack and nothing else.

Only thing is, it is so able to soak up the 140 BHP it has, it feels underpowered. It's not, in fact I reckon it's not far off my Omega's pace at lower speeds, but it just feels like it could be so much fun with another 100 BHP. One of my ambitions is to turbocharge it. Then we'll see [smiley=evil.gif]

Oh, and the other thing: The steering wheel is Huge! what were they thinking? It's like driving a bus!

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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #72 on: 22 February 2008, 17:45:33 »

get a Yammy Vmax, a real thriller!! :P :y
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Re: Would an Esprit V8 be a really bad idea?
« Reply #73 on: 22 February 2008, 18:20:36 »

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get a Yammy Vmax, a real thriller!! :P :y
I have been looking at bikes, but not what I had in mind in terms of a back seat!  I would have bought one last year if the weather had been better.  Not really considering it any more unfortunately, just can't use it enough unless my commute changes.
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