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Martin_1962

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Re: Somebody loves Fony
« Reply #30 on: 13 October 2011, 21:27:10 »

yeh even tho im a fan of sony stuff, i prob wouldnt pay there prices for a tv or laptop, i have to have a ps3 for gt5 thats the law lol

Some of there stuff is good, some poor.

Don't like their cheap stuff, their more expensive TVs are good (the W series won lots of awards quite a few on system) however not sure on the post S-LCD TVs, their (not cheap) video cameras are very good, the semi pro stuff is among the best there is, their ES stuff is good, their PMPs are good.

Viao stuff is over priced, basically Apple prices for the PC market. And their car hifi WAS good but now just cheap tat. Their music labels are full of shite, films so so, games very good.

Saw a recent Sony home cinema amp a couple of weeks ago - too light weight, bit plasticy, but then so are a lot of similar priced ones now, but they have abandoned that part of the market from being quite popular with ES receivers.

TB was caught out by a TV with a known defect, which was fixable but I cannot remember the fix.
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Another fanboy.

The W series telly was good. Not brilliant. Just good.

The fix for my Fony telly was replacement with a different model - they all suffered, just the 100Hz ones were worse.  However, Fony UK refused to do this, stating a new SCART board would fix all issues. It didn't, clearly. It was a poor design, poorly constructed with substandard parts.

Did I mention my C&G224 P3 was in TVs ::)

There was an engineered fix but not in UK, I think someone on AVF found it.
The fix would be a new PSU, new defelction drivers, and possibly a new coil. That would fix the geometry changing with what the screen is displaying.  The electronics around picture generation would need fixing as well, but it would be impossible to tackle this before getting a stable image, no matter what is onscreen.

I remember someone on AVF saying that we need a top end TV with decent PSU, a Sony Wega tube, and very good electronics. Not a Sony TV but a high end TV using their tube.

The Wega tube was fantastic but the later Wega TVs were really made down to a price, that tube in a top end TV would have been best on market.

I remember looking at a lot of the flat wide screens and the Wega was far and away the best,mine was possibly one of the last before the quality drop.
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Re: Somebody loves Fony
« Reply #31 on: 13 October 2011, 21:32:46 »

The Wega tube was very good - although Fony made it appear even better by setting the defaults on their sets to maximum brightness and high contrast. Makes it look more vibrant in the shops, but kills the tubes quickly.

Even with the brightness down, the Wega doesn't last long before going soft.  I used mine for about 3yrs before I couldn't tolerate its issues (and bear in mind it was replaced 3 times), and the tube is looking tired.
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« Reply #32 on: 13 October 2011, 21:34:48 »

The Wega tube was very good - although Fony made it appear even better by setting the defaults on their sets to maximum brightness and high contrast. Makes it look more vibrant in the shops, but kills the tubes quickly.

Even with the brightness down, the Wega doesn't last long before going soft.  I used mine for about 3yrs before I couldn't tolerate its issues (and bear in mind it was replaced 3 times), and the tube is looking tired.

Mine was wacked right down as it was way too bright when it was set up.

Mine managed 9 years before starting to go dark at high brightness, didn't go soft though. But mine was 50Hz.
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Re: Somebody loves Fony
« Reply #33 on: 13 October 2011, 21:38:26 »

The Wega tube was very good - although Fony made it appear even better by setting the defaults on their sets to maximum brightness and high contrast. Makes it look more vibrant in the shops, but kills the tubes quickly.

Even with the brightness down, the Wega doesn't last long before going soft.  I used mine for about 3yrs before I couldn't tolerate its issues (and bear in mind it was replaced 3 times), and the tube is looking tired.

Mine was wacked right down as it was way too bright when it was set up.

Mine managed 9 years before starting to go dark at high brightness, didn't go soft though. But mine was 50Hz.
Most CRT tubes are good for around 5yrs of average use. After that, the colour definition starts to go.  Many don't reconise this, as they watch their telly every day, and don't notice the degradation. My mum was still watching her B&O 20yrs later ;)

If you had 9yrs from it, I bet your replacement seemed fantastic by comparison  :-X
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« Reply #34 on: 13 October 2011, 23:04:24 »

Ah I remember my Wega.. it lasted two weeks before all it would show was four scan lines diagonally down the screen. Called the Sony Centre I'd bought it from to be told it'd be four months for a repair with no loan TV in the mean time. I took it back, dropped it on the counter and loudly explained precisely why I'd like a refund, TYVM.

Poked off elsewhere and bought a Toshiba rear projection set that lasted 10 years and was still going strong when I gave it away to someone at work. ;D
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Re: Somebody loves Fony
« Reply #35 on: 14 October 2011, 00:08:30 »

Lets not forget Minolta who made pretty good cameras, until the 5M pixel CCDs (made by Sony ) started going bad after a short while, and they had to replace them under an extended warranty. Can you imagine the cost of stripping one camera, replacing the CCD, set it up and ship it back ?. Multiply by a large percentage of digital cameras sold and its no wonder they went out of business. This also affected JVC and somebody else, Nikon (?)

Ken

..and the relatively recent Pentax K5 and Nikon D7000. Loads of problems with the early samples having blotches all over the sensor. Shame because it was shaping up to be a pretty cracking sensor for an APS-C. The manufacturer of the sensor? Have a guess... ::)
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