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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #15 on: 06 December 2011, 15:27:27 »

My mother, coming up to 104 (and counting) lives in her own home and gets 2 hours of care a week, doesn't qualify for more as she doesn't meet the criteria!
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #16 on: 06 December 2011, 15:30:57 »

my grandad used to go into a care home for a month or so at a time more to give my nan a rest from looking after him as she was a bit poorly  this was a few years ago and it cost my dad £1400 a week probably was a bit higher being in london

This is a good idea...apart from the expense.
I have suggested this to my mother, but its a total waste of time......I thought this could be a way of prising her out of her flat, suggesting it would be like a holiday, new friends, etc.
 We now have Christmas approaching, and this is another battle to deal with. :(
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #17 on: 06 December 2011, 15:34:09 »

My mother, coming up to 104 (and counting) lives in her own home and gets 2 hours of care a week, doesn't qualify for more as she doesn't meet the criteria!

This just beggars belief that a woman of that age is expected to go through life the same as, say, a twenty one year living in their own flat >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #18 on: 06 December 2011, 16:05:37 »

My grandad is 81 and now has alzhiemers (sp?) hes been moved twice to differant homes which never does him any good, the last one was £700 a week, he was being left in the same clothes, they were never washed properly or ironed (he was always very smart), no one to talk to, never went out, so my mother was running around left right and centre tryin to look after him, plus my nan who now lives on her own in a differant place and work!
But, she recently found a really good home, the staff are great, they take them out a couple times a week to differant places, hes always dressed smart, they are very understanding, especialy when its 2am and he often thinks hes 22 works in a nightclub and wants to know how much this hotels costing! My nan is currently on a list waiting to move in aswell. Its really crap how until you have had all the upheaval and trying to settle them in until you find out if the home is actualy any good!  :(
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #19 on: 06 December 2011, 16:49:03 »

My mother, coming up to 104 (and counting) lives in her own home and gets 2 hours of care a week, doesn't qualify for more as she doesn't meet the criteria!

disgraceful  who sets the ridiculous criteria   and nearly 104 good luck to your mum :y
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #20 on: 06 December 2011, 16:53:23 »

On the up side of the coin, my MiL has recently moved into residential Council care and she is looked after 24/7, meals etc etc costs her her weekly state pension, less twenty quid a week back as 'pocket money' for getting the hair done, papers etc.

GP attends each week and holds a surgery, hairdresser at least fortnightly if not weekly, all meals prepped & served and cleaned up afterwards, laundry done and personal care looked after  Choice of whatever daily activity is ongoing or veging in front of the telly, knitting, reading, jigsaws etc or out and about with family or whatever.

Overall, happy with whats ongoing for her TBH so its not all doom and gloom out there....   :y

That sounds more like it should be. Maybe things are different and better in Scotland ( and I am not wanting to start a fight over that). I think my uncle pays until his considerable wealth reaches the figure of 16k (very soon) when he stops paying or at least paying so much. Very sad after he was frugal all his life. I've said this before but in Spain as part of getting your dole you can do service in the community. For the women that involves helping the elderly who mostly live at home. They take them out shopping, for walks, do housework, be a companion and so on. Here everyone knows everyone so it works. In England it would be a charter to rob people blind I suspect.
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #21 on: 07 December 2011, 00:09:45 »

My Grandmother worked all her life from the age of 14 till when she retired at the age of 63 all those years in the same place British Shoe in Leicester, my Grandfather died in 1975 and she remarried in 1986, 10 years latter her second husband died. She then lived in there semi detached which was bought and paid for on her own with her own pension and savings. At the age of 90 she was moved to a care home where she died a few years latter. In that time she was completely wiped out, house gone savings gone the lot all she had left to her name was a bed a wardrobe a small tv a few clothes and a room that was 10 by 8, 50 odd working years (inc the war years) paying tax and NI and that was the end result. God save the Queen and the great British Empire - yeah right.

Another kick in the teeth for the working man / fleeced by the greedy to the very end and beyond.
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #22 on: 07 December 2011, 08:01:26 »

My Grandmother worked all her life from the age of 14 till when she retired at the age of 63 all those years in the same place British Shoe in Leicester, my Grandfather died in 1975 and she remarried in 1986, 10 years latter her second husband died. She then lived in there semi detached which was bought and paid for on her own with her own pension and savings. At the age of 90 she was moved to a care home where she died a few years latter. In that time she was completely wiped out, house gone savings gone the lot all she had left to her name was a bed a wardrobe a small tv a few clothes and a room that was 10 by 8, 50 odd working years (inc the war years) paying tax and NI and that was the end result. God save the Queen and the great British Empire - yeah right.

Another kick in the teeth for the working man / fleeced by the greedy to the very end and beyond.



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A truth so sadly evident in this country - as a matter of fact it is one of the finest examples of the 'top-down society' where the maxim of 'opps you, I'm alright' is held paramount by those seeking to attain, maintain or advance their position irrespective of the cost to others.

Being obliged to pay for everything but the air we breathe (presently) we're getting as bad as the USA, where money is king and it’s tough titty to those who can't afford to pay the price.
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #23 on: 07 December 2011, 09:47:54 »

Being obliged to pay for everything but the air we breathe (presently) we're getting as bad as the USA, where money is king and it’s tough titty to those who can't afford to pay the price.

Agreed. How long before we too start shunning public provision of even healthcare because "I'm all right. I've got medical insurance." >:(
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #24 on: 07 December 2011, 13:16:39 »

My mother in law is just about to go into a nursing home - £1000 per week.

All that I could say or feel has already been said on this thread. It is a kick in the face for how people with solid values and principles find the end of life scenario almost to have been pointless.

The stress of it all can of course split families - those living nearby suffer much of the care/visting burden and yet they do not want the loved one to move away - so you can get a sort of blame culture. Family members can be off work sick with the stress and families are in danger of imploding in some cases which means the loved one departs this world in the unhappy state of knowing that the family they watched grow are at each others throats at the end of life.

I went to my neighbour's funeral yesterday and it was so nice to see the whole family at one in celebrating his life - although Ron decided to bypass the care home bit and died very quickly.

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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #25 on: 07 December 2011, 22:44:40 »

On the up side of the coin, my MiL has recently moved into residential Council care and she is looked after 24/7, meals etc etc costs her her weekly state pension, less twenty quid a week back as 'pocket money' for getting the hair done, papers etc.

GP attends each week and holds a surgery, hairdresser at least fortnightly if not weekly, all meals prepped & served and cleaned up afterwards, laundry done and personal care looked after  Choice of whatever daily activity is ongoing or veging in front of the telly, knitting, reading, jigsaws etc or out and about with family or whatever.

Overall, happy with whats ongoing for her TBH so its not all doom and gloom out there....   :y

She is one of the lucky ones, someone at some point decided that such homes should be privatised and most council ones are now closed, where social services pay it costs them more.....Same with private Children's homes and private foster carers..... >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Cost of old folks stay in care homes
« Reply #26 on: 07 December 2011, 22:52:54 »

On the up side of the coin, my MiL has recently moved into residential Council care and she is looked after 24/7, meals etc etc costs her her weekly state pension, less twenty quid a week back as 'pocket money' for getting the hair done, papers etc.

GP attends each week and holds a surgery, hairdresser at least fortnightly if not weekly, all meals prepped & served and cleaned up afterwards, laundry done and personal care looked after  Choice of whatever daily activity is ongoing or veging in front of the telly, knitting, reading, jigsaws etc or out and about with family or whatever.

Overall, happy with whats ongoing for her TBH so its not all doom and gloom out there....   :y

She is one of the lucky ones, someone at some point decided that such homes should be privatised and most council ones are now closed, where social services pay it costs them more.....Same with private Children's homes and private foster carers..... >:( >:( >:(

We know she is one of the lucky one, so to speak.  Only difference was that F & MiL were staunch labourites, earning every penny, saved befoe spending, no tick, paid the council for their house all their days.  When she was left on her own, no state benefits, no rent rebate, no discount on Council Tax etc etc, unlike some of the welfare spongers who think that freebies are a right of passage.

As said, it takes all sorts and I know that there is a limit on savings/assets and she would have had to sell her home to pay for accomodation but as its Council owned, does not apply.

The whole shamoozle regarding care of the elderly in this country really is one ginormous fustercluck, sadly.....
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