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[TheBoy]

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All autoboxes have creep by design,  .......

Have you read the above posts?  Some 'switch off' when stationary as per the Astra G  And SWMBO's Smart doesn't creep either (manual box with auto controls  )

SMART isn't a proper auto.

Astra auto is just gay.  Mind you, so are the manuals

By its nature, an auto needs creep for manuovering (as no manufacturer will recommend 2 foot driving)

[Andy B]

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SMART isn't a proper auto.

Astra auto is just gay.  Mind you, so are the manuals

By its nature, an auto needs creep for manuovering (as no manufacturer will recommend 2 foot driving)

Whether the Smart is a 'proper' auto or not, it only has 2 pedals but it doesn't creep .........

[doz]

My old Passat with the DSG box had a auto hold feature. Was magic in traffic. I tend to drive a automatic using two arms and one leg while facing forward...................mostly 

[Andy B]

My old Passat with the DSG box had a auto hold feature. Was magic in traffic. I tend to drive a automatic using two arms and one leg while facing forward...................mostly 

Wasn't struck on the all singing all dancing DSG g/box when we had one as a courtesy car, didn't live up to the hype IMHO.

I tend to drive a automatic using one arm/hand and two feet while mostly facing forward ....... 

[Auto Addict]

My old Passat with the DSG box had a auto hold feature. Was magic in traffic. I tend to drive a automatic using two arms and one leg while facing forward...................mostly 

Wasn't struck on the all singing all dancing DSG g/box when we had one as a courtesy car, didn't live up to the hype IMHO.

I tend to drive a automatic using one arm/hand and two feet while mostly facing forward ....... 

Very dangerous

[Andy B]

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Very dangerous

Why???
Maybe time to get all one armed/handed drivers off the road then! I have the option of using both as & when or if the occasion arises.

[Elite_L0ver]

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Very dangerous

Why???
Maybe time to get all one armed/handed drivers off the road then! I have the option of using both as & when or if the occasion arises.

I am one armed but fully capable of driving my mig what wrong with it

[Andy B]

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Very dangerous

Why???
Maybe time to get all one armed/handed drivers off the road then! I have the option of using both as & when or if the occasion arises.

I am one armed but fully capable of driving my mig what wrong with it

Nothing at all, which was just my point to AA's 'very dangerous' comment re me driving with one arm/hand. 

[Elite_L0ver]

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Very dangerous

Why???
Maybe time to get all one armed/handed drivers off the road then! I have the option of using both as & when or if the occasion arises.

I am one armed but fully capable of driving my mig what wrong with it

I have a disability btw

[Andy B]

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I have a disability btw

So I'd realised 

[Taxi_Driver]

When i applied for my first private hire drivers license.....part of the application is that you are taken out by a driving examiner....to judge your driving skills.

Then i had my merc auto.

I asked the examiner about the correct procedure when stopping at junctions.

He told me .....leave it in drive and foot on the brake.....right or wrong....thats how learners get taught driving autos.....or they did 8 or 9 years ago.

I can see the point of clamping a hot disk with a pad and could cause warping over time.....but leaving the box in D is less likely to wear it out the keep selecting N or P ....thats just my opinion of course.

I also had a V6 2.5 Vectra auto many years ago and that kept putting itself in N while you stationary......imagine the stress on box when you took your foot of the brake and whacked the 'loud' pedal as it banged into gear.....

[Elite_L0ver]

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Very dangerous

Why???
Maybe time to get all one armed/handed drivers off the road then! I have the option of using both as & when or if the occasion arises.

I am one armed but fully capable of driving my mig what wrong with it

Nothing at all, which was just my point to AA's 'very dangerous' comment re me driving with one arm/hand. 

  sorry 

When i applied for my first private hire drivers license.....part of the application is that you are taken out by a driving examiner....to judge your driving skills.

Then i had my merc auto.

I asked the examiner about the correct procedure when stopping at junctions.

He told me .....leave it in drive and foot on the brake.....right or wrong....thats how learners get taught driving autos.....or they did 8 or 9 years ago.

I can see the point of clamping a hot disk with a pad and could cause warping over time.....but leaving the box in D is less likely to wear it out the keep selecting N or P ....thats just my opinion of course.

I also had a V6 2.5 Vectra auto many years ago and that kept putting itself in N while you stationary......imagine the stress on box when you took your foot of the brake and whacked the 'loud' pedal as it banged into gear.....

thats how i was taught last year i say its wrong though i put it in nutreal when stood for a couple of minutes

[aaronjb]

but leaving the box in D is less likely to wear it out the keep selecting N or P ....thats just my opinion of course.

Mine too After all, if you think about it:

The brake bands are 'always' in use - but they only see significant wear when changing gear (when they have to brake one or more planetary gear sets). When you're sat in D they're not really being worn (unless they are already slipping, in which case you're on borrowed time anyway), but going D-N-D they'll see some wear - granted not much, really, because;
If you think about the torque convertor - especially with a loosely coupled convertor as in the Omega - how much energy do you think it's dissipating into the oil etc through slipping the torque of the engine at idle? Especially compared to how much torque it's having to (hydraulically) transmit when you've got your hoof welded to the shag pile!

So, that's my take on it

Though I stick the handbrake on as I said earlier, because I know I hate being blinded by the person in front of me..

I'll stick it in N or P if I'm going to be stopped more than a minute or so (a regular light change), however.

[TheBoy]

Then again, I was taught to slow down on the gears. Thats all wrong now.

[Andy B]

Then again, I was taught to slow down on the gears. Thats all wrong now.

So was I ............. but it was that long ago I was taught to drive in a Mk I Escort! Right or wrong, I'll still use my manual Astra's gearbox to slow down.