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Re: Installing an RSJ
« Reply #15 on: 15 May 2012, 21:59:37 »

I'll have you know that exhaust failed an MOT, I then borrowed it stole it. Fixed it up, slapped in on my 3.2 and still using it  ;D
Who patched it up? Clearly too good a job, only meant to pass your MOT ::)

Sounded a bit throaty the other day though ;)

Yeah I don't think its actually connected to the back box anymore  ::)
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Re: Installing an RSJ
« Reply #16 on: 16 May 2012, 09:04:29 »

I used to be a bricklayer (time served apprentice) doing new build and renovation. You may fall foul of building reg if you use an RSJ. When you but in a lintol it must have a load certificate. If used a Catnic lintol these certificates are supplied with lintol or can be easily downloaded from manufacturer website.

An RSJ whilst much stronger as we all know does not have a certificate and is frowned upon by local jobsworths, sorry that should have read as proffesional local authority employee.

That job would take me two days labour plus materials, assuming roof joists run from garage doors to back wall.
It is not a difficult job, just need acro props to support roof and the knock out and install lintol and then demolish and make good.

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Re: Installing an RSJ
« Reply #17 on: 16 May 2012, 10:44:05 »

Bet you wouldn't see change from £2500 if paying labour as well.. You'll need a 15' garage door which will be a good £1000 for even a basic up'n'over, close to £2000 probably for a sectional or roller door.

I'm told (having looked at doing the same) catnic's are seriously expensive over a certain length, and the architect I used advised an RSJ (with supporting load calculations by a structural engineer) as it would be cheaper, but still £800 or so.

Plus labour, engineers calcs (£80, in my case, via the architect), any potential buildings regs inspection fees..
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Re: Installing an RSJ
« Reply #18 on: 16 May 2012, 11:02:28 »

Had a feeling it would be that kind of money, while it would be nice to walk all around the car, I just have to back it out and in the other way, which is a bit of a pain.

OptionB which is possible would be to extend back, lots of land behind that. Make it considerably longer, allow space to get in then position the car in the middle.
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« Reply #19 on: 16 May 2012, 11:13:24 »

OptionB is a much better plan - a friend actually did that, he had two single-car-wide, three-car-long garages and took out most of the middle wall, dropping an RSJ in. Cheaper than opening up the front (you don't need a single huge door which, btw, are very heavy to manually open - I have a 14' 7" door on mine) and you get tons of space.

There will always be a longer car (as I found trying to get the Jag in mine ;D) ;)
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Re: Installing an RSJ
« Reply #20 on: 16 May 2012, 12:16:42 »

There will always be a longer car (as I found trying to get the Jag in mine ;D) ;)

Bah! Cars are easily shortened. ::)
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« Reply #21 on: 16 May 2012, 12:23:15 »

There will always be a longer car (as I found trying to get the Jag in mine ;D) ;)

Bah! Cars are easily shortened. ::)

Well.. that one was! ;D
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Re: Installing an RSJ
« Reply #22 on: 16 May 2012, 12:51:06 »

Is the centre wall a support wall?
Could you leave the doors as they are and just knock the wall down behind so it is a through garage with two doors?
It may then stop you getting involved in Building Regs and save buying a new door.....
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« Reply #23 on: 16 May 2012, 19:03:45 »

Is the centre wall a support wall?
Could you leave the doors as they are and just knock the wall down behind so it is a through garage with two doors?
It may then stop you getting involved in Building Regs and save buying a new door.....
Unless there is already a lintel or RSJ in place then it's reasonable to asssume the center pillar will be load bearing.
That aside, what will you use to fill the gap created between the two doors when the center pillar is removed as well as supporting the door runners?
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Re: Installing an RSJ
« Reply #24 on: 16 May 2012, 19:31:53 »

How hard can it be? ;D
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Re: Installing an RSJ
« Reply #25 on: 16 May 2012, 19:35:45 »

Is the centre wall a support wall?
Could you leave the doors as they are and just knock the wall down behind so it is a through garage with two doors?
It may then stop you getting involved in Building Regs and save buying a new door.....
Unless there is already a lintel or RSJ in place then it's reasonable to asssume the center pillar will be load bearing.
That aside, what will you use to fill the gap created between the two doors when the center
pillar is removed
as well as supporting the door runners?
Ah so that's where the gaffatape will come in this Tunniebodge.
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