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[welsh_cossack]

JIMBOB

Where is the logic in a system that would allow me to become a newbie today talk to everybody
in a week and get 250 posts easily,then con a sale from somebody. Or stop a member asking for advice after being a member for over a year
NOW THINK AND DON,T USE THE FUZZY LOGIC THAT YOU HAVE BEEN USING ALL THIS TIME.

[Jimbob]

That has happened in the past, hence going from no restriction, to 50, and now to 250 which has removed most the piss takers.

We dont like where we are, but it has evolved to this stage where we believe it is the best solution for the collective membership and admin team.

Sorry to say a few rogues in the past has spoiled it for everyone now.
Also remember this site costs money to run, every post adds a monetary cost in terms of storage, bandwidth to be viewed etc.  We allow sales from members who have contributed (over 250 posts).  We are not a free version of ebay, gumtree, local ad's etc

I appreciate its hard for people like yourself who have been a member for a long time, but have not joined in.

But that's where we are. No if's but's or doubt's.
All sales, and thinly veiled sales adverts from members without the requirements are deleted on sight, with no explanation normally, persistent tryers also earn a short ban to help the message sink in when necessary.

[martin42]

Nicely put Jimbob 

[Steve B]

Thanks for that Input Jimbob NOT
Cant you distigush then between people who are asking for help and people who are trying to sell
Yes you get many posts and most get the hint
 (I AM NOT RUNNING)

why so rude

[Jimbob]

As you are now viewing as a guest, I take it we can now close this thread and will see no more sales attempts

[Gaffers]

Another freeloader who thinks the world and the internet belongs to him.  Not realising the time effort and finances put in to it by the mods and admins.

I have read the rules he said, yet still uses caps lock.

To Welsh_cossack:  There are plenty of places where you can sell your car for free and at little cost, I suggest you go use them.  Not because we dont want you here but because you will have more luck than this place, and I speak fom experience on this one.

[Omega_Dan]

I've read his first post and I can't see the logic in locking it. Unless you need 250 posts to ask for advise and opinion of selling as well. . Perfect example of why the community sprite has / may be being affected.

[hotel21]

I put the initial lock on the thread.  I read it as yet another thinly disguised sales thread and I deleted a post from a longer established member who asked the OP for a price, miles and stuff.  That was, in my view, inviting a response and rather than have the thread continue to balloon I locked it.  I was at work and on the mobile and had to do a sharp exit from OOF due to work commitments.

Here is a very brief summation of pertinent points in the forum guidelines which the OP now assures us he has read and understood.  The ..... parts are those portions snipped by me to keep the post from going away from the subject in question.

And I agree in entirety with Jimbobs call.   

Posts which are outside these guidelines are subject to modification or even deletion by the Moderators. The decision of the Admin Team is final, and a long drawn out post mortem on any action or decision is never helpful.
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Absolutely no links to your Ebay auctions, or Ebay auction numbers, or direct or indirect links to other places where it is advertised.
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Absolutely no links to your Ebay auctions, or Ebay auction numbers, or direct or indirect links to other places where it is advertised.

No posting for sale items in the 'wrong' areas to get around the postcount limits.

Currently you need to be an Intermediate Member (over 250 posts) to advertise your car or your parts.
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Sellers must provide an approximate price in their description. This is NOT an auction site, and certainly not a blind bid selling arena.
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Posts deemed not to meeting these criteria will be subject to deletion.
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Keep titles relevant, and not just 'Help me' etc.  Not everybody has time to read every thread

Use English, no text speak which is notoriously difficult to read.
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DON'T USE CAPITALS!  LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE SHOUTING!!

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Remember, there is a search facility. Many problems have been discussed before so please use the search facility first. 
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And finally....
The Admin Team reserve the right to alter these guidelines at any time.

The decision of the Admin Team is final in all cases.

[henryd]

I've read his first post and I can't see the logic in locking it. Unless you need 250 posts to ask for advise and opinion of selling as well. . Perfect example of why the community sprite has / may be being affected.

I think H21 and Jimbob made the right call,the guys attitude since confirms my thoughts

[Omega_Dan]

I've read his first post and I can't see the logic in locking it. Unless you need 250 posts to ask for advise and opinion of selling as well. . Perfect example of why the community sprite has / may be being affected.

I think H21 and Jimbob made the right call,the guys attitude since confirms my thoughts

Agree his reaction has not been conducted well but I stand by my opinion

[TheBoy]

Having read the original posts, I too take it as a invite for people interested in buying the car to get in touch.

Whilst there is always going to be an element of 'feel' and personal gut reaction to these types of threads, I believe the Admin Team normally are bang on with their judgements.  Clearly, in these instances where we have to go purely on instinct (and the very extensive experience we have gained ), mistakes occasionally happen.

These mistakes usually stand out like a spare prick at a wedding afterwards. One of may ways of judging how right/wrong we were by how far the toys get thrown, and this thread tells me the original judgement is absolutely correct.

Incidentally, I am looking at Kevin Wood's PM to you, and think it is concise and accurate, and necessarily matter of fact.


The Admin Team give up a lot of their own personal time, effort, resources and money keeping this place running, and I know suspect a porportion of us rather wouldn't bother. So if you have a valid complaint, try putting it in a more constructive way, whereby a civil discussion can take place, rather than throwing a strop because you were so easily found out didn't get what you wanted. Thats a recommendation for any situation, not just OOF

[MikeDundee]

Well done folks looks like its all sorted , no need for me to comment, and I totally agree with the comments made by long standing members, oh and admins

[Andy B]

For whatever reason I was also sent an email 

IF YOU READ THE POST YOU WOULD SEE I AM NOT SELLING HERE.
SO WHERE DO I POST IT AS I AM BLOCKED FROM POSTING ON THE FOR SALE TOPIC
I AM ASKING FOR ADVICE


I did appear to be a 'for sale advert' to us all though 

[05omegav6]

Still reckon it's worth 45p cheque still available

Having seen the first, locked, thread which read like a 'look at my car,  now who wants to buy it thread' I posted a similar reply on the almost identical thread which got deleted as I posted

A timely reminder of why there are rules me thinks

 

[CaptainZok]

Looks like Teddy is firmly out of the pram now.