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[jimac]

Am I the only one who is rather surprised that the garage released the car with the warning light on in the first place?

Surely if you work on a car and the light is on afterwards, the likelihood is that it's something you've done, and it warrants investigation to avoid giving the customer's car back in a faulty (perhaps, in some instances, dangerous) condition.

No, I am too, especially if it was also misfiring on 2 or 3 cylinders.  Would any garage really think they would get away with that?  It does make me question whether it was like that when the car was picked up or happened later, which is why I said I wouldn't have actually driven away from the garage with it in that condition.

[Webby the Bear]

ok, first of all... i've re-read my post.... sorry if it comes across as argumentative... didn't mean that at all... but you know how the written word can look sometimes 

ok i acknowledge that yes it is possible it could be a coincience. i think the thing that really gets me is this.... the OP takes it to the garage for a service item (which the cambelt is). and instead of trying to fix and rework back what they've worked on to see if it was their mistake...they're instead adament that they've timed it correctly and are looking to charge the OP for a part they suspect is faulty (as it's rusty... wtf! lol) without doing the proper diagnosis..

eric the car guy (on youtube) talks about this a lot..... chucking parts at a car until it's resolved. and who foots the bill

[Webby the Bear]

not hijacking but i've just had a thought......

i had my cambelt done 20k miles ago by Vauxhall when i knew nowt about cars.

recently i've had a tapping from the engine... not loud but kinda noticeable. i have dumped a load of wynns lifter treatment in......

however, whats the likely hood the timings out slightly? i dont want to cause myself probs for the sake of it. car runs perfect. just this tapping. and it's an intermittent tap too. reckon its best to get the belt redone early?

[jonathanh]

there is no harm is stripping off the belt cover and checking it is timed and tensioned correctly - no need to change the belt for that.  you've got nothing to loose!

[jimac]

ok, first of all... i've re-read my post.... sorry if it comes across as argumentative... didn't mean that at all... but you know how the written word can look sometimes 

ok i acknowledge that yes it is possible it could be a coincience. i think the thing that really gets me is this.... the OP takes it to the garage for a service item (which the cambelt is). and instead of trying to fix and rework back what they've worked on to see if it was their mistake...they're instead adament that they've timed it correctly and are looking to charge the OP for a part they suspect is faulty (as it's rusty... wtf! lol) without doing the proper diagnosis..

eric the car guy (on youtube) talks about this a lot..... chucking parts at a car until it's resolved. and who foots the bill

All I'm saying is let the garage look into it before making assumptions and jumping to conclusions. They have read the codes and found misfires on cylinders 1, 3 and 5.  This would make many people suspect the coil pack on that side of the engine, so they took it out to look at it.  It looks rusty so I guess they suspect that it may have suffered from water ingress (there may be a hairline crack, which is far from unknown) so a fairly easy solution would be to try a new coil pack.  Nowhere have we seen that it is suggested that the customer pays for this if it doesn't fix the problem, although I would expect the customer to be charged if it does fix it.  Conversely, if the garage had spent time rechecking the timing and cambelt fitment, and it turns out to be a faulty coil pack, the customer would be charged for even more unnecessary work.

[JamesV6CDX]

I am hoping the OP comes back to update us....

[TheBoy]

not hijacking but i've just had a thought......

i had my cambelt done 20k miles ago by Vauxhall when i knew nowt about cars.

recently i've had a tapping from the engine... not loud but kinda noticeable. i have dumped a load of wynns lifter treatment in......

however, whats the likely hood the timings out slightly? i dont want to cause myself probs for the sake of it. car runs perfect. just this tapping. and it's an intermittent tap too. reckon its best to get the belt redone early?

Feel free to drop it round, I'll happily check it for you Webby. Or more accurately, show you how to check it .  Although I think you probably know how.


OP - same offer applies, but I would rather the garage fixed it, or refunded you completely first, as once touched by someone else, they can wash their hands of the problem.

[SalahJ]

Hi everybody...hope you all had a nice sunny and warm  weekend....

I'm really sorry, couldn't post any update as I was completely bogged down at work.

Anyway, I went to the garage on Saturday, test drove it and it was driving perfectly without any misfire or engine light. The garage guy told me that they re-checked the cam-belt setup to fix it and they didn't have to fit in any new parts. He pretty much admitted (although indirectly) that the cam-belt wasn't done correctly the first time, also apologised for the trouble. And he didn't charge me anymore  .

Drove it around town yesterday and it's driving as before.

[Steve B]

so take it nothing wrong with coil pack

[Brikhead]

I'm really sorry, couldn't post any update as I was completely bogged down at work.

I can't see that you need to apologize and I'm also really glad that your car has been sorted without the need for you to pay anymore cash out...

[SalahJ]

so take it nothing wrong with coil pack

Nothing was wrong with the coil-pack.

[JamesV6CDX]

great news there is no serious damage. I would still be inclined to get the setup checked by someone who knows it well

[cem_devecioglu]

Hi everybody...hope you all had a nice sunny and warm  weekend....

I'm really sorry, couldn't post any update as I was completely bogged down at work.

Anyway, I went to the garage on Saturday, test drove it and it was driving perfectly without any misfire or engine light. The garage guy told me that they re-checked the cam-belt setup to fix it and they didn't have to fit in any new parts. He pretty much admitted (although indirectly) that the cam-belt wasn't done correctly the first time, also apologised for the trouble. And he didn't charge me anymore  .

Drove it around town yesterday and it's driving as before.

I still doubt they could do it properly.. timings may be ok but not sure for tensioner..
 
I recommend it to be checked by an OOF member..

[cem_devecioglu]

great news there is no serious damage. I would still be inclined to get the setup checked by someone who knows it well

I didnt read your post 

[Webby the Bear]

not hijacking but i've just had a thought......

i had my cambelt done 20k miles ago by Vauxhall when i knew nowt about cars.

recently i've had a tapping from the engine... not loud but kinda noticeable. i have dumped a load of wynns lifter treatment in......

however, whats the likely hood the timings out slightly? i dont want to cause myself probs for the sake of it. car runs perfect. just this tapping. and it's an intermittent tap too. reckon its best to get the belt redone early?

Feel free to drop it round, I'll happily check it for you Webby. Or more accurately, show you how to check it .  Although I think you probably know how.


OP - same offer applies, but I would rather the garage fixed it, or refunded you completely first, as once touched by someone else, they can wash their hands of the problem.

Thanks TB, I may just do that... i know how to check it as i borriwed your kit last time lol 

good news OP..... defo get it checked by someone on here just to be sure.