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Re: 3.0 V6 Cadillac
« Reply #15 on: 31 August 2012, 20:43:27 »

Cleaned breathers per your illustrated guide, Mark. Replaced plug wires. Car started this morning and ran like a Patek. I cannot express my gratitude enough to you folks for your insightful advice to a lost Yankee (I'm Canadian, too). In America, this car is an orphan, and even though it drives great and looks great, none of the Cadillac dealers has a clue as to how to work on it. Their estimate to replace cam gaskets, wires and plugs was $2,271! I bought the car for $2850. I think it's their way of discouraging people from bringing them in. It's my intention to drive it until something seizes, so I'm thinking we'll get to know each other in the next few years. I live in a little beach community on the Pacific ocean, right next to one of the premier Salmon and Steelhead streams in Oregon. It would be my pleasure to show any fellow gearhead around my neighborhood should any of you make the journey. My grandfather was born in Wales and next year my Mother and I are making a pilgrimage. Again, thanks to all. You'll soon be used to hearing my ignorant questions and comments.

I guess that was recently?

These cars cost between (about) 20,000 and 30,000 UK Pounds when new - that $30 - $45k USD.

I bought my '99 3.0 2 years ago for 500 pounds or $750 - which shows just how good value the Omega is here. I have to say that used prices do seem to have increased somewhat recently - but still much much cheaper than the US and also many parts of Europe.

FYI - all Omegas/Cateras were built in Russelsheim in Germany - with all the V6 engines being built in the England and shipped to Germany for assembly into the cars on the production line.

Most, but not all of our parts will fit the Catera - so it's worth consider shipping items and having a stock of parts. For example - a cambelt kit will be about $150 (plus shipping) and you can do it yourself with some special tools that can be "loaned" from the UK.

All the best - Rob
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« Reply #16 on: 31 August 2012, 20:51:20 »

Cleaned breathers per your illustrated guide, Mark. Replaced plug wires. Car started this morning and ran like a Patek. I cannot express my gratitude enough to you folks for your insightful advice to a lost Yankee (I'm Canadian, too). In America, this car is an orphan, and even though it drives great and looks great, none of the Cadillac dealers has a clue as to how to work on it. Their estimate to replace cam gaskets, wires and plugs was $2,271! I bought the car for $2850. I think it's their way of discouraging people from bringing them in. It's my intention to drive it until something seizes, so I'm thinking we'll get to know each other in the next few years. I live in a little beach community on the Pacific ocean, right next to one of the premier Salmon and Steelhead streams in Oregon. It would be my pleasure to show any fellow gearhead around my neighborhood should any of you make the journey. My grandfather was born in Wales and next year my Mother and I are makin like a Patekg a pilgrimage. Again, thanks to all. You'll soon be used to hearing my ignorant questions and comments.
like a Patek??
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« Reply #17 on: 31 August 2012, 20:53:22 »

like a Patek??

Going to guess that's a reference to a very, very expensive make of watch that runs rather smoothly (or I'd hope they do, given the price!)..
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« Reply #18 on: 31 August 2012, 20:54:19 »

Cleaned breathers per your illustrated guide, Mark. Replaced plug wires. Car started this morning and ran like a Patek. I cannot express my gratitude enough to you folks for your insightful advice to a lost Yankee (I'm Canadian, too). In America, this car is an orphan, and even though it drives great and looks great, none of the Cadillac dealers has a clue as to how to work on it. Their estimate to replace cam gaskets, wires and plugs was $2,271! I bought the car for $2850. I think it's their way of discouraging people from bringing them in. It's my intention to drive it until something seizes, so I'm thinking we'll get to know each other in the next few years. I live in a little beach community on the Pacific ocean, right next to one of the premier Salmon and Steelhead streams in Oregon. It would be my pleasure to show any fellow gearhead around my neighborhood should any of you make the journey. My grandfather was born in Wales and next year my Mother and I are makin like a Patekg a pilgrimage. Again, thanks to all. You'll soon be used to hearing my ignorant questions and comments.
like a Patek??
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« Reply #19 on: 31 August 2012, 21:00:21 »

like a Patek??

Going to guess that's a reference to a very, very expensive make of watch that runs rather smoothly (or I'd hope they do, given the price!)..
good link you posted. they look very very nice.
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« Reply #20 on: 31 August 2012, 22:16:25 »

I should have added Phillippe. Sorry. This has been a gas. But, another fun item has come to fore - a hose at the rear of the intake that does nothing and goes nowhere. I drove over to the local "used car strip" and looked at two other Catera's, and they have this do-nothing hose, too.What am I missing? I have certainly re-connected everything I removed when disassembling the intake system. When I was a young lad, the cars they made for sale in Hawaii and Peurto Rico were plumbed for heaters, yet were NOT equipped with said device. Any parallels?
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« Reply #21 on: 31 August 2012, 22:19:48 »

Long plastic hose with a 'hooked' rubber end on it, by any chance (from memory)?

That's the gearbox breather, which is why it isn't hooked to anything  :y
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« Reply #22 on: 31 August 2012, 22:23:22 »

Long plastic hose with a 'hooked' rubber end on it, by any chance (from memory)?

That's the gearbox breather, which is why it isn't hooked to anything  :y

+1.

100% agree .........
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Re: 3.0 V6 Cadillac
« Reply #23 on: 31 August 2012, 23:19:09 »

Damn. You guys feel like a vacation on our side of "the pond"? I would feel right at home drinking a beer with you guys while wrenching on our respective rides. I guess you're a car guy (person?) or you're not, huh? Do Vauxhall and Opel sell many Omegas in your market?$2850 for a garage kept one-owner car was actually less than the local rate. The average Catera with 100k+ miles sells for around $3-4000 in our local area. I think that either you understand the idea of this car or you don't. Plus, I've always budgeted my transportation costs to coincide with what I can pay for in toto. No contracts. No payments. Since a car of a certain vintage will always reach terminal depreciation, I've always gravitated to luxury rides with domestic nameplates. Unfortunately, this time I found myself a little out of my depth. Until I found this site. I'll post pics of my little red gem with the factory chrome wheels after I get home and give it a bath. Thanks for everything.
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« Reply #24 on: 01 September 2012, 10:15:09 »

I'm coming to the USA in the next couple of weeks. Doing a "world tour of the midwest", so not near you, I'm afraid. Could bring parts over, tho.

Have been up the pacific coast as far as Eureka, Ca and down as far as Seattle before, but never done Oregon.
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Re: 3.0 V6 Cadillac
« Reply #25 on: 01 September 2012, 11:32:29 »

Cylinder number 1 is the front left.Front right (nearest air filter)

Cylinder number 4 is on the right frontCylinder No2 is left front (nearest battery)

You should be able to see the numbers on dispack.
I guess mechanics in the US will probably be more familiar than us about how Vee engine cylinders are numbered.......... (for those who aren't: The cylinders are numbered by their relative positions on the crankshaft. The two banks of cylinders are slightly offset and the right hand bank is forward of the left hand which is why cylinder 1 is the front cylinder of the RH bank and cylinder 2 is the front cylinder in the LH bank.
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« Reply #26 on: 01 September 2012, 13:33:30 »

Interestingly, back when these cars were new I was working with an American guy who came over here regularly. I took delivery of a brand new Omega whilst he was over here and a rather intersting arguement started ........

Seems his mother had a Catera and he insisted that the Omega was made by Cadillac in the US and shipped over here to be sold. I, of course, insisted otherwise and proved it to him easily enough as there is a "made in Germany" badge somewhere on it. He was "gobsmacked"  ;D

It seems that the Catera was marketed specifically at the "blue rinse" generation in the US in the same way that the Lexus IS300 was targeted at school kids who would get Daddy to buy one new for them on their 16th birthday  :-X. If that is the case I can see why you would get low milers some up from time to time.

I've just been to my local dealers & bought a whole bunch of parts to fix my leaky exhaust manifold gasket. I also got a complete set of filters (oil, air, pollen and fuel) and the bill for the whole lot came to 80 pounds - which is about 120US. I'd certainly be happy to ship parts over as I'm sure others would be.

BTW - fuel here is a lot more expensive than yours  :'(. I filled up today and 65 litres was 87 pounds - that's about 130 USD  :y. That's about the only downside of running one of these & my many of the guys on here have converted their cars so they can also run on gas as well as petrol. I have't personally, but there are a lot who have.

All the best
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« Reply #27 on: 01 September 2012, 15:51:15 »

UK              USA
gas/LPG =    Liquified Petroleum Gas (Propane)
petrol    =    gas (gasoline)
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Re: 3.0 V6 Cadillac
« Reply #28 on: 01 September 2012, 20:57:53 »

Sounds much like the dealers over here to be honest.

Stick around, anything you need to know, one of the members will be able to help. The mobile mechanics might get a tad pricey, mind... ;) :y
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« Reply #29 on: 02 September 2012, 15:27:42 »

All was well in Cateraland for 200 miles. Good power, outstanding fuel mileage and just pleasurable to drive again. Then, we stopped to eat, came out and all hell broke loose. Check engine light blinking, and running on maybe three cylinders. I disconnected the battery cable, hoping to do what I cannot honestly say, but after re-connecting it ran well enough to get home. Time to pull codes, but I have a feeling I must have forgotten to do something obvious, or knocked some component I should've been more careful with. On my previous Cadillac - an STS - when the Crank position sensor failed I used this move to get it home for repair. Sound like a likely suspect to you? Does it make sense? I thought I had covered all possibilities by changing wires, plugs and DIS module.
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