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[TheBoy]

Kevin Wood covered it pretty well. Although cable needs adding in, as that can degrade as well.

[bored bigyin54]

So, given picture loss is to be expected, and the reason is fairly obvious as a look out the window will explain all, is there Nything actually wrong with the set up for Sky's biggest fan?

Ie, what does signal strength show in the service(?) menu option...?

It should be above half/below three quarters on the scaleless graph on both inputs/LNB's.

when i set the dish up for the caravan , i dont use a meter just point and hope for the best

Thats what sky did on your install by the sounds of it ralf                                                   

yes i think so . see that is what we pay for 

[feeutfo]

Sky technicians only do the ground level h+s acceptable jobs. All else is contracted out!

...to fe@kin numptys mostly IME.

[bored bigyin54]

Sky technicians only do the ground level h+s acceptable jobs. All else is contracted out!

...to fe@kin numptys mostly IME.

better not say any more , it may upset tunnie

[Kevin Wood]

Sky technicians only do the ground level h+s acceptable jobs. All else is contracted out!

...to fe@kin numptys mostly IME.

Technicians! that's rich. I wouldn't let those butchers anywhere near my house.

[feeutfo]

Sky technicians only do the ground level h+s acceptable jobs. All else is contracted out!

...to fe@kin numptys mostly IME.

better not say any more , it may upset tunnie

Or, to look at it the other way, not strictly sky's "fault"

[feeutfo]

Sky technicians only do the ground level h+s acceptable jobs. All else is contracted out!

...to fe@kin numptys mostly IME.

Technicians! that's rich. I wouldn't let those butchers anywhere near my house.

ok, engineers then?

[TheBoy]

Sky technicians only do the ground level h+s acceptable jobs. All else is contracted out!

...to fe@kin numptys mostly IME.

I thought it was all contracted out. Or, more accurately, its all sub contracted.

And yes, IME, they (the ones contracting to Sky) are all useless. Better to pay a proper aerial fitter to do it properly, normally around £50

[tunnie]

Sky technicians only do the ground level h+s acceptable jobs. All else is contracted out!

...to fe@kin numptys mostly IME.

I thought it was all contracted out. Or, more accurately, its all sub contracted.

And yes, IME, they (the ones contracting to Sky) are all useless. Better to pay a proper aerial fitter to do it properly, normally around £50

No, we have our own fleet of them. In Sky branded Vans, we are in the process of replacing the entire fleet with VW Transporter's, bought over 1,000 of them so far 

I know anything more than standard house is contracted out, also in other circumstances we do when we cannot get one of our own there.

Although this did not used to be the case, due to the complains a lot of things have been brought in house, like box production too.

[feeutfo]

Sky technicians only do the ground level h+s acceptable jobs. All else is contracted out!

...to fe@kin numptys mostly IME.

I thought it was all contracted out. Or, more accurately, its all sub contracted.

And yes, IME, they (the ones contracting to Sky) are all useless. Better to pay a proper aerial fitter to do it properly, normally around £50

I suppose it could be now BB, but when we went through the signal issues with our install, the first install was a sky technician only allowed to install at ground floor level, no higher than a step ladder.
 Anything higher was referred to as needing a special heights team. Three of which where needed to achieve line of sight above the roof line, as our row of houses is in perfect alignment with the satellite, the dish couldn't peer round the side of the house to receive enough signal. It HAD to go above the roof line, on a poll. You wouldn't.... well actually you would believe the polarver.
 As mine is a non standard install with output to a second tv thats wired through walls under floor boards to the loft and down another wall to the tv, they took one look and shat themselves.  "OH...we can't do that." do what? The dish needs to be sbove the roof, why are you even in the house....? It took a good half hour to get them to understand that the run from the dish to the input on the box was all they where here for.

How do some people get through life...?