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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #15 on: 31 October 2006, 16:01:47 »
I currently use an ATI x800 - rather impressive gaming card. Lasted me 2 good years now.
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #16 on: 31 October 2006, 16:39:37 »
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GeForce4 MX 440/440SE
Slow, awful, horrible card, even when it was released around 4 or 5 yrs ago....
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #17 on: 31 October 2006, 16:45:31 »
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GeForce4 MX 440/440SE
Slow, awful, horrible card, even when it was released around 4 or 5 yrs ago....

But cheap... veeery cheap. And a reliable backup for fried Geforce 4 TI models! (I blew two 4600's up!)
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« Reply #18 on: 31 October 2006, 22:36:45 »
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Slow, awful, horrible card, even when it was released around 4 or 5 yrs ago....

Yes but my work PC is not a games machine, my three year old home PC will eat any at work for breakfast - even though it is a P4 2.4.

We have found that virtually any NVidia chipped card will do VESA 2 but SIS are horrible.

Currently trying to work out why our DOS software runs 20x quicker if I hold the CTRL down - any change I do buggers something else up. It is to do with data access and the dos app taking as much as it can get depriving the IP thunking layer of its priority - I think I'll take ADSDOSIP up to a higher priority and try that.

Some customers are not interested in moving to our WIndows app either
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #19 on: 01 November 2006, 11:03:56 »
As I've said several times, shouldn't really be using DOS stuff (or Win9x stuff) now....
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #20 on: 01 November 2006, 13:01:54 »
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As I've said several times, shouldn't really be using DOS stuff (or Win9x stuff) now....

I suppose mainframes shouldn't be used either?

There is still a large amount of DOS applications out there working day in day out.
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #21 on: 01 November 2006, 19:04:00 »
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As I've said several times, shouldn't really be using DOS stuff (or Win9x stuff) now....

I suppose mainframes shouldn't be used either?

There is still a large amount of DOS applications out there working day in day out.
Mainframes still have a big role to play. Fortunately, they are normally supported by vendor nowadays, who ensure the OS images are kept up to date.

There are a number of DOS apps, fortunately reducing all the time.  The fact that it is a DOS app implies it hasn't been updated for 5 years. That is not good, esp if networked.
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« Reply #22 on: 01 November 2006, 20:20:09 »
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As I've said several times, shouldn't really be using DOS stuff (or Win9x stuff) now....

I suppose mainframes shouldn't be used either?

There is still a large amount of DOS applications out there working day in day out.
Mainframes still have a big role to play. Fortunately, they are normally supported by vendor nowadays, who ensure the OS images are kept up to date.

There are a number of DOS apps, fortunately reducing all the time.  The fact that it is a DOS app implies it hasn't been updated for 5 years. That is not good, esp if networked.


Excuse me I updated our barcode generation today and my boss added a new Spacer bender
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #23 on: 01 November 2006, 20:29:26 »
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Excuse me I updated our barcode generation today and my boss added a new Spacer bender
And what tools did you use to do the update, and when where those last updated?

There are (very) few exceptions, but I think you see my point.... ;)
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« Reply #24 on: 01 November 2006, 20:38:39 »
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Excuse me I updated our barcode generation today and my boss added a new Spacer bender
And what tools did you use to do the update, and when where those last updated?

There are (very) few exceptions, but I think you see my point.... ;)

Mix of Clipper 5.3b and MSC8
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #25 on: 01 November 2006, 20:48:56 »
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Excuse me I updated our barcode generation today and my boss added a new Spacer bender
And what tools did you use to do the update, and when where those last updated?

There are (very) few exceptions, but I think you see my point.... ;)

Mix of Clipper 5.3b and MSC8
Clipper 5.3 is circa mid 1990s, and I believe no longer supported by vendor...
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #26 on: 01 November 2006, 20:50:21 »
Is MSC8 MS C++? If so, didn't know it could do DOS apps. I know it can do Win32 console apps.
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #27 on: 01 November 2006, 23:34:26 »
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Is MSC8 MS C++? If so, didn't know it could do DOS apps. I know it can do Win32 console apps.

Quick history

Nantucket split off from Ashon Tate as they wanted to do a compiler rather than interpreter, their 5th version of Clipper was 5.01 got bought up by Computer Associates at some time

Summer 87, 5.01, 5.2 all written in MSC5, Clipper 5.3 written in MSC8.

To use extend API for C code you are best using the same compiler ie MSC5 (which is buggier than 8) or MSC8.

MSC8 is part of VC1 and VC1.5, we use VC4 with Alaska Xbase++ and VC6 with Visual Objects.

All three are part of the XBASE family, other members were dBaseII/Vulcan, dBaseIII, dBaseIV, FoxBase, FoxPro, Visual FoxPro. All the dBase were pure interpreter, all Foxes souped up interpreters, and all Clippers PCode compilers (one of the best PCODE compilers ever according to a guru I know (John Skelton)), Nantuckets full compiler project was called Aspen and caused their purchase by CA, the Aspen project was merged with their windows project and became Visual Objects, after a few years it actually became usable.

Parallel tools were Blinker (their first project was ALINK) which became the most popular linker for Clipper, now on version 7, a reindexing engine written as an NLM became a client server engine called Advantage Xbase Server - originally only worked with Clipper, until a windows front end was brought in, now very popular in Delphi, Alaska, VO and of course Clipper circles - available on Netware, NT or Linux.

Clipper was a landmark product as the finest DOS database development system.

We have 4 different languages hitting our databases Via ADS (Xbase became Database)

BTW Visual Basic is horrid!
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #28 on: 02 November 2006, 00:06:58 »
Quick history:

DOS = older than me. Enough said for reasons why it shouldn't be in use any more! HCI has changed so much that command line input is cumbersome, time consuming and incredibly complicated considering what can be done these days.

For the record, I used to love DOS and general command input. Just can't use it these days though.

And btw... Visual Basic is superb! I've drawn/written loads of home made apps and programs to do the things I want! I couldnt do without it. Quick, easy and no frills :D Just like basic in DOS, but with a GUI.
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Re: New graphics card
« Reply #29 on: 02 November 2006, 11:20:26 »
Certain tasks are so much easier on the command line

Directory creating.

mapping drives

seeing actual file size quickly

Running anything with command line parameters
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