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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #45 on: 08 December 2012, 17:29:58 »

Right then get thinking you lot - Here goes!!!!
1-checked timing-exhaust cam 2 teeth out  :'(
2-timing sorted out-It starts :y :y
3-NO repeat NO throttle-ITs DBW (rubbish IMO) :'(
4-What NOW!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Anybody want to check with TECH 2-PM me for details
I know its not my car but REALLY REALLY STUCK now :'( :'(
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #46 on: 08 December 2012, 17:38:01 »

Ah 'dangle berries', I forgot  :-[. I was in Oxford last night  :-[
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #47 on: 08 December 2012, 17:41:31 »

Ah 'dangle berries', I forgot  :-[. I was in Oxford last night  :-[
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #48 on: 08 December 2012, 18:05:29 »

On my old might I had similar problems, ran rough especially when accelerating. Again I could power through it.
Took to local garage. They couldn't find a fault, no codes. turned out to be the dispack. When they took it off it was cracked, causing the poor running
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #49 on: 08 December 2012, 20:33:08 »

On my old might I had similar problems, ran rough especially when accelerating. Again I could power through it.
Took to local garage. They couldn't find a fault, no codes. turned out to be the dispack. When they took it off it was cracked, causing the poor running
good idea mate but as mentioned earlier in thread-done.Car has NO throttle-just like disconnecting cable(this one is DBW) if you get what I mean :y
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #50 on: 08 December 2012, 22:33:42 »

 ::)

Whoops got here following a link by Symes ???
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #51 on: 08 December 2012, 22:53:16 »

all related to same miggy mate-Boggys 2.2 garden ornament  :y
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #52 on: 09 December 2012, 18:09:43 »

If it weren't for Symes, It would be on Ebay by now in many parts! Cheers old boy ;)
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #53 on: 09 December 2012, 18:57:07 »

Right then get thinking you lot - Here goes!!!!
1-checked timing-exhaust cam 2 teeth out  :'(
2-timing sorted out-It starts :y :y
3-NO repeat NO throttle-ITs DBW (rubbish IMO) :'(
4-What NOW!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Anybody want to check with TECH 2-PM me for details
I know its not my car but REALLY REALLY STUCK now :'( :'(
Assume the connection on the TPS on the pedal has been checked. Has the throttle body been given a good clean as that incorporates the second TPS (sealed unit). Would normally get a 1555 code though for non responsive throttle  ???
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #54 on: 09 December 2012, 19:18:22 »

Has the throttle baoy been reconnected since the cam belt cover was off for checking the timing?
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #55 on: 09 December 2012, 19:19:42 »

Well today found problem with cam sensor replaced that=now starts and revs to 3000 then dies? and for some reason coolant tank pressurising :o undo cap water flies out :o Even though cold????
am on the edge now tried everything I can-as said needs tech2 or I can see this one going into pieces-literally  :'(
This one aint no easy problem-is it??
 
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #56 on: 11 December 2012, 19:32:20 »

I don't think it is, as the symptoms don't fit, but do you have a compression tester Symes?

The nagging doubt is the cam timing being significantly out. Wonder if that is responsible for the P0340 that it threw as well.
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #57 on: 11 December 2012, 20:49:09 »

Could the Exhaust Cam being out by 2 teeth maybe bend the valves? the reason I ask is because the problem has gradually gotten worse since the head was done
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #58 on: 15 December 2012, 21:34:02 »

Could the Exhaust Cam being out by 2 teeth maybe bend the valves? the reason I ask is because the problem has gradually gotten worse since the head was done
NO !!! Today took thermostat out-replace with new one and also changed EGR as plug socket was busted up-by previous NON-mechanic who did the head(timing out+broken cam tensioner) personally wouldnt let that person open my car door let alone work on it.
Well it starts and runs - bit fluffy at first but when warmed up its fine??? no EML light but car with spanner light on--any clues
I wondered if lamba?? maybe
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Re: Bad running (Electrical or Mechanical)
« Reply #59 on: 16 December 2012, 01:04:01 »

Lambda sensors don't come into the equation until they have warmed up so I doubt it.

Car with spanner light is the EML, IIRC. The one with the engine symbol indicates an emissions related problem. There should still be codes stored if wither light is on, so these need to be read, IMHO.

Given that a muppet has timed it up wrong in the past, I think a compression check would be worthwhile, just to rule out physical damage.

I would avoid replacing any more parts until the problem is found. Use the fault codes as guidance and see what they are pointing at.
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