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[YZ250]

Interesting, is there a difference between traditional 4wd and awd? A friend was telling me about some sort of inferior 4wd system on his Audi TT; being bored to death by Audis I wasn't listening.

Haldex. 

[geoffr70]

You can't beat a defender, they'll go just about anywhere if driven properly.

I bet a Subaru will be more comfortable the other 99% of the time though (having been in my other half's Dad's Defender 110!) 

I wouldn't want to jetwash the inside of a subaru though, whereas if it's a Defender, game on! It doesn't matter if you crash a Defender either (reallly it doesn't!), it all adds to it's character!

[cem_devecioglu]

You can't beat a defender, they'll go just about anywhere if driven properly.

I bet a Subaru will be more comfortable the other 99% of the time though (having been in my other half's Dad's Defender 110!) 

I wouldn't want to jetwash the inside of a subaru though, whereas if it's a Defender, game on! It doesn't matter if you crash a Defender either (reallly it doesn't!), it all adds to it's character!

I would prefer a subaru anytime.. besides crashing a car converts it to a pile of junk soon..

[geoffr70]

You can't beat a defender, they'll go just about anywhere if driven properly.

I bet a Subaru will be more comfortable the other 99% of the time though (having been in my other half's Dad's Defender 110!) 

I wouldn't want to jetwash the inside of a subaru though, whereas if it's a Defender, game on! It doesn't matter if you crash a Defender either (reallly it doesn't!), it all adds to it's character!

I would prefer a subaru anytime.. besides crashing a car converts it to a pile of junk soon..

Not a defender.

[geoffr70]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZrhuSE_ivA&feature=endscreen&NR=1

defenders go anywhere

[Auto Addict]

Is a Unicycle an AWD?

[plym ian]

why does all them 4 wheel drive/awd's all look exactly alike, there's no imagination now when designing cars anymore 

[aaronjb]

You can't beat a defender, they'll go just about anywhere if driven properly.

I bet a Subaru will be more comfortable the other 99% of the time though (having been in my other half's Dad's Defender 110!) 

I wouldn't want to jetwash the inside of a subaru though, whereas if it's a Defender, game on! It doesn't matter if you crash a Defender either (reallly it doesn't!), it all adds to it's character!

Agreed - and if I wanted something to get up to it's axles in mud it'd be a Defender, for sure On the other hand if I wanted to spend any significant time on the roads .. I wouldn't

Having said that, if Defenders could be picked up cheaply (er, I should add, roadworthy Defenders.. ) I'd be tempted, just for fun.

[cem_devecioglu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZrhuSE_ivA&feature=endscreen&NR=1

defenders go anywhere

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NPq4kv9k7E
 
subaru .. any day..
 
 

[aaronjb]

Cem, even the description of that video states:

"First and foremost, the Defender is by far the better off road choice."

Put that Subaru in 50cm of water and see if it's still running, for a start

[Marks DTM Calib]

You can't beat a defender, they'll go just about anywhere if driven properly.

I bet a Subaru will be more comfortable the other 99% of the time though (having been in my other half's Dad's Defender 110!) 

..with the added advantage that it can actually go in a straight line and doesn't pee EP90 everywhere.

Not so sure on the EP90 leaking issues though.....

[feeutfo]

It's a good job there's no hills like that on my commute.

Plenty of 4wd's though. Sigh...

[aaronjb]

It's a good job there's no hills like that on my commute.

Plenty of 4wd's though. Sigh...

Speaking of .. I saw a dark coloured Omega saloon this morning and thought for a moment that it was yours; until I got close enough to see it was a standard looking 2.6.

Must get my eyes tested 

[feeutfo]

It's a good job there's no hills like that on my commute.

Plenty of 4wd's though. Sigh...

Speaking of .. I saw a dark coloured Omega saloon this morning and thought for a moment that it was yours; until I got close enough to see it was a standard looking 2.6.

Must get my eyes tested 

no commute for me today

[cem_devecioglu]

Cem, even the description of that video states:

"First and foremost, the Defender is by far the better off road choice."

Put that Subaru in 50cm of water and see if it's still running, for a start

its the video makers opinion , not mine  
 
how is that   just google suby in deep water and mud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QquhqGu9ig