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[Marie]

Men use tools women use utensils 

tut tut you should know better 

I don't get involved in these arguments...

plus i cant cook really cant cook

My one and only comment to wife years back was.... 'Did you check the oil'.....and the reply was.... 'And when did you last iron a shirt'

I admit defeat, and do not enter that area again.

i do the ironing too 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I agree Marie!

It will take some time to get all us ladies in the frame of mind to tackle all jobs possible, but there is still a problem / challenge with how us girls are raised. 

My father was utterly useless with DIY in any form, but my mother, and grandmother before her, believed in tackling anything and so did all the basic house maintenance.  There were no cars in the household, so my mum never progressed to that, but she would have done if the opportunity had arisen!  But in so many households in the past, and I suspect still in some, girls are over encouraged to let men get on with their manly tasks, with women doing their's.  So old  fashioned, and bit by bit things will change.  My daughter was encouraged by me to do everything she could with looking after a car and house maintenance.  I am sure her daughter, my grandchild is now being brought up as a girl of the 21st century with all jobs open to her in the new female self reliant world!   No wonder men are becoming rather paranoid about girls being top mechanics (like you Marie ) and high level technical staff building nuclear submarines or airliners!

The revolution is in hand, but just a bit held up by a lack of confidence and over bearing men!

i still to this day suffer from this  if its a job i havent done before i know i have the skills etc but sometimes can just be tooo duanting and if i break my car i have to pay for it and if i break the aircraft i loose my rate and or my auths. once i have done a job a couple of times im good to go  had a fast ball today had to go out to another squadron and remove a bit of kit with time restraints and i was the lead enginner telling someone of the same rank what to do and when but i knew excatly what needed doing and how without looking at the maintenance manual  although i had to stay late at work

oh I HATE SHOPPING !!!!!!!!!!!1 REALLY HATE IT lol

I can imagine  that is a bit scary, but I greatly admire you Marie for what you have obviously achieved in what would have been more of a "man's world" in past days.

You are of course committed to your job and try to maintain a high standard, that is clear to see.  That is what I have experienced in business with female colleagues at managerial level. They have always cared about how they achieve their objectives, and have been far more committed than many of their male counterparts who have had a different attitude towards their job.  In a way the women have been less confident (I know I was even when at a very senior level) then the men, so have put more effort in to make sure things are "perfect".  The men were always more laid back, being totally confident (even arrogant!) and more prone to be lackadaisical in their results.

Oh yes, I can feel men ganging up on me now, but I can only state what I have known!

[Guinney1971]

I'm loving this 'discussion' 

I'm reminded of the time, 20+ yrs ago, when I had a Saturday job at a local tyre centre - I'd gone in to get some new boots on the aforementioned, Mini, and asked to borrow a screwdriver and spanner as my front number plate was loose again.

The manager could see that I was ok with tools, and asked if I wanted a job, £20 for a full Saturday, cash in hand, plus I got to keep any tips.  Now back then, beer was about £1 a pint, so £20 was good money to me lol

I remember some old boy came in with his Metro, and I drove it into the bay, and started removing the back wheel to change his tyre - at which point, said gentleman, who was probably in his 70's, said "excuse me, are you a girl?" to which I said I was the last time I looked, and he said "well you should be at home in the kitchen helping your mother, not doing a man's job!"

So I put the air gun down, and went and got one of the lads to do his car, and I moved onto to my next job, a Citroen 2CV - owned by a typical 2CV owner (hippyesque type), who said "oh wow, a girl tyre fitter!! right on!!"

Yep, it really was one of those days ! lol   

Claire

[Marie]

I'm loving this 'discussion' 

I'm reminded of the time, 20+ yrs ago, when I had a Saturday job at a local tyre centre - I'd gone in to get some new boots on the aforementioned, Mini, and asked to borrow a screwdriver and spanner as my front number plate was loose again.

The manager could see that I was ok with tools, and asked if I wanted a job, £20 for a full Saturday, cash in hand, plus I got to keep any tips.  Now back then, beer was about £1 a pint, so £20 was good money to me lol

I remember some old boy came in with his Metro, and I drove it into the bay, and started removing the back wheel to change his tyre - at which point, said gentleman, who was probably in his 70's, said "excuse me, are you a girl?" to which I said I was the last time I looked, and he said "well you should be at home in the kitchen helping your mother, not doing a man's job!"
So I put the air gun down, and went and got one of the lads to do his car, and I moved onto to my next job, a Citroen 2CV - owned by a typical 2CV owner (hippyesque type), who said "oh wow, a girl tyre fitter!! right on!!"

Yep, it really was one of those days ! lol   

Claire

i had this out my grandads mouth  when i was 13 told him im joining the forces whether you like it or not i dont need your permission!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Guinney1971]

         Glad it wasn't just me then - your grandad didn't have a Metro and live in Stevenage did he? 

Claire