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[Andy B]

.... as the caliper would not open up enough to get them in. ....And i think the job took longer than envisaged.So do you think as he has said, get a new caliper and he  will fit it free. .....

I've only had need to fit a couple of sets of rear pads, but they went OK. Either your new pads are the wrong ones ie too thick, or, as you suggest, your mech had had enough. I'd not think about a 'new' caliper until at least after I'd had a look myself.

Hi Andyb,the thing is i would not have a clue what to look for mate Dean

You're looking for a gap between the back of the pad & the corners of the caliper ...... & what's in the way to cause the gap. It's likely to just be rusty crap in the corners. Pads out, a good wire brush & a scraper of some sort to scrape the corners out.
I know that Chris some  will dis-agree, but then put a dab of copper slip where pad meets caliper when refitting the pads. 

[TheBoy]

I'm probably a bit far south, but if you're stuck...

Hi TB thanks for the offer,you see i am a bit of a stickler.When it comes to the right parts,for the job.Hence buying genuine parts off andyc,i am not to happy. That one set is the ones that were already on.He is normally pretty good in his work,and i dont think he is bullshitting me.But this time he has made another mistake as well.When taking off the wheel cap,the nut was seized.He tried to get it off and broke off the nut,so the shaft was stuck in the alloy wheel.He then drilled it out,and made the hole to big.So he tapped it and put another bolt in,but it does not look right.He also damaged the cap,bit of a pain all this.Looks like new alloy,cap,and caliper more money :(Dean

Oh, sounds like he made a right mess of things

Well, the offer is there if you need a hand with the brakes.  Not sure I'd be writing off the caliper just yet, but obviously impossible to say without seeing it. The other damage, he's destroyed the hub?

[TheBoy]

I know that Chris some  will dis-agree, but then put a dab of copper slip where pad meets caliper when refitting the pads. 

I never get squeal from the rear, using that method.  Can't stop the squeal from the front, though, something has different about the last 3 or 4 sets of pads on the front. Not sure if GM TC front pads have changed?

[moggy]

I'm probably a bit far south, but if you're stuck...

Hi TB thanks for the offer,you see i am a bit of a stickler.When it comes to the right parts,for the job.Hence buying genuine parts off andyc,i am not to happy. That one set is the ones that were already on.He is normally pretty good in his work,and i dont think he is bullshitting me.But this time he has made another mistake as well.When taking off the wheel cap,the nut was seized.He tried to get it off and broke off the nut,so the shaft was stuck in the alloy wheel.He then drilled it out,and made the hole to big.So he tapped it and put another bolt in,but it does not look right.He also damaged the cap,bit of a pain all this.Looks like new alloy,cap,and caliper more money :(Dean

Oh, sounds like he made a right mess of things

Well, the offer is there if you need a hand with the brakes.  Not sure I'd be writing off the caliper just yet, but obviously impossible to say without seeing it. The other damage, he's destroyed the hub?

Yes mate the hub is furbard,the cap is now held on with an allan key bolt. >:(Dean

[TheBoy]

Well, its up to him to make good the damage, ie replace the hub, and make good the other stuff.

Then use somebody else.

[moggy]

Well, its up to him to make good the damage, ie replace the hub, and make good the other stuff.

Then use somebody else.

Allready asked him,he said. First if i cant get the pads in what do you want me to do.And if i buy you a new hub,cap and get the tyre put on.It will cost more than you paid me to do the job.So i am basically stuffed

[TheBoy]

Well, its up to him to make good the damage, ie replace the hub, and make good the other stuff.

Then use somebody else.

Allready asked him,he said. First if i cant get the pads in what do you want me to do.And if i buy you a new hub,cap and get the tyre put on.It will cost more than you paid me to do the job.So i am basically stuffed

Thats not your problem. He should have insurance against his mistakes. He did the damage.

[moggy]

Well, its up to him to make good the damage, ie replace the hub, and make good the other stuff.

Then use somebody else.

Allready asked him,he said. First if i cant get the pads in what do you want me to do.And if i buy you a new hub,cap and get the tyre put on.It will cost more than you paid me to do the job.So i am basically stuffed

Thats not your problem. He should have insurance against his mistakes. He did the damage.

TB this is were i may have made a mistake,even tho he did the work at his registered business garage.I paid him cash in hand,so i doubt anything has gone through the books if you know what i mean

[TheBoy]

Well thats between you and him. Either way, he should be insured.

If you don't want to persue that line, then you need to find someone who will replace the hub, look at getting the wheel refurbed, and sorting out the brakes.

I certainly wouldn't be using that garage again.

[Andy H]

Well, its up to him to make good the damage, ie replace the hub, and make good the other stuff.

Then use somebody else.

I read it as being the alloy cap that covers the wheel bolts that is fubar along with the screw thread in the alloy wheel. (ie NOT the hub)

One of the OOF members breaking a car can probably sort out good alloy wheel + cap + security screw for not much money. Until then it isn't a safety issue (but dammed annoying every time you look at the car )

[TheBoy]

Well, its up to him to make good the damage, ie replace the hub, and make good the other stuff.

Then use somebody else.

I read it as being the alloy cap that covers the wheel bolts that is fubar along with the screw thread in the alloy wheel. (ie NOT the hub)

One of the OOF members breaking a car can probably sort out good alloy wheel + cap + security screw for not much money. Until then it isn't a safety issue (but dammed annoying every time you look at the car )

Ah, yes, those early horrible covers. Yes, if it is just that, fairly trivial

[moggy]

Well, its up to him to make good the damage, ie replace the hub, and make good the other stuff.

Then use somebody else.

I read it as being the alloy cap that covers the wheel bolts that is fubar along with the screw thread in the alloy wheel. (ie NOT the hub)

One of the OOF members breaking a car can probably sort out good alloy wheel + cap + security screw for not much money. Until then it isn't a safety issue (but dammed annoying every time you look at the car )

Hi Andy,yes you are right mate.Sorry for the confusion all,i have got new security screws.But need a new cap and alloy,i don't know if any breakers on hear.Would have a 5 spoke 16 inch alloy plus the cap(the one with the pretend nuts on).I will put a wanted ad on here,buy yes andy it looks shit.Dean

[moggy]

Well thats between you and him. Either way, he should be insured.

If you don't want to persue that line, then you need to find someone who will replace the hub, look at getting the wheel refurbed, and sorting out the brakes.

I certainly wouldn't be using that garage again.

TB no i wont be using him again,i would like to take you up on your offer.As you are only 50 odd miles from me.Do you think it would be a good idea to bring a new caliper,with me.As i don't want to waste yours and my time if you say the caliper is knackered.Dean

[dbug]

Did he have the correct caliper piston wind back tool? It is possible without by using a flat bar, but in situations where it is a bit sticky, it wont appear to wind back fully, since pressure is needed as well as rotation. Just a thought.

Piston doesn't need rotation to go back 

Correct its just a push it back job - a suitably sized g-clamp usually works with stiff ones.  Sounds like the caliper may be seized - as said worse case scenario replace caliper - a good second hand one will be ok

[Andy H]

Did he have the correct caliper piston wind back tool? It is possible without by using a flat bar, but in situations where it is a bit sticky, it wont appear to wind back fully, since pressure is needed as well as rotation. Just a thought.

Piston doesn't need rotation to go back 

Correct its just a push it back job - a suitably sized g-clamp usually works with stiff ones.  Sounds like the caliper may be seized - as said worse case scenario replace caliper - a good second hand one will be ok

If you don't stamp on the brakes occasionally (/ regularly?) the rear calipers do very little work and a ridge of crap & rust can build up where the brake pad sits in the caliper. Be prepared to use a file to shift the rust so the new pads can slide freely in the caliper.